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If Matt is being honest, then we have 6 vanilla survivors. Hum.
Is that possible on this configuration? Catwalk is obviously not a Mason, it doesn't seem to fit his reasoning of one shots.
DD - Doctors
V or VV (Qgq or someone else) (only way for three kills N1)
XXX (X)
TTT and TTTT are both out (GF).
M and MMM are also out
DDD and DDDDD
Now, 5T would net us Goon, Godfather, Serial Killer. That leaves us TTTTTDDV, with just a one shot vigilante and the serial killer both going on night 1. Night 2, the serial killer and the scum, with the 1sV spent.
5 Townies straight away, 1 D, 1sD, 1sV, 1Sk, 3 scum, 1 extra town.
That's 6 townies, with Catwalk lying or really dumb, and Qgqqqq trying to cover up being the serial killer with being a MSV. Jabbz or Zak as Scum or 1sV, one of either. This is assuming Mattimeo is telling the truth.
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Shit, I rolled 8 times on that. Ugh.
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Quote:I’m going to assume you don’t actually mean you are glad you voted out an innocent, and assume you mean that you are ok with the fact that you would have voted in those specific circumstances again, with that specific information. That out of the way, what do you mean by “hardly voting to save comm.”?
Jabbz, take a step back from this and reconsider your arguments. I'm not saying you are getting emotional/angry, but you are having your judgement clouded by emotional reactions (this is what Zak meant about raging). Statements like the first part are what I mean by this, and are counterproductive to the town (another, lessor, example is Matt listing himself as innocent and Hasoosh as not) - all these biases leaking through can make it harder to play for people, and specifically here run the risk of reducing something to an unwarrented duel/rat-race in the way Rowain/Azarius were yesterday. Of course I meant given the specific information we had yesterday, just as people stating they would lynch Ryan again D1 meant it.
Anyway, I believe I had already explained it before (actually, another source of confusion appears, so to clarify before I reiterate, comm == Commodore == Goreripper), but I will reiterate. I voted Azarius within the first two hours of that day, and didn't have a chance to post again after that. Goreripper appeared as a serious candidate in the last 8 hours of the day so I was hardly voting to save him.
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Hashoosh: either you're lying, or I'm lying, or Catwalk is lying.
If Catwalk is not actually seer, DDVVVTT checks out (with Jabbz' recent claim), and would have 6 vanilla.
If Catwalk is actually seer, then as already stated there's only 5 vanilla. And that's me and the 4 dead dudes.
Looking past today:
Awfully convenient for Jabbz to claim right when he did. Right after I stated how the choice was between a 1-shot vig and the SK.
Would quite like to see what zak has to say about all this.
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You killed novice then, Jabbz? Why didn't you shoot Rowain if he was who you had suspicions about?
Therefore the following claims have been made: - Qgqqqqq - Multi-shot Vigilante, killed D1 Sunrise, D2 Goreripper
- Catwalk - Multi-shot Cop, scanned D1 BRick, D2 Rowain
- Hasoosh - Vanilla
- Mattimeo - Vanilla
- Jabbz - One shot Vigilante, killed novice D1
The following have yet to claim:
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We have to have DDV, that way we have 3 kills being possible. This rules out everything but TTxxxxx, Txxxxxx, xxxxxxx.
TT X X X X X X X
Meaning TTDDVVV as the only way of having 3 kills N1.
2T + 2D + 2V + 3Scum = 9
Add four and that's 6 vanilla survivors.
T X X X X X X
TDDV X X X is possible here, as there's a serial killer.
1T + 2D + 1sV + 4scum = 8
We know there were 3 other vanilla survivors, so that's 11. And myself, that's 12. Then mattimeo so 13. But is that possible?
we'd need it to TDDVV, that leave us 2 rolls short of 7. If mattimeo is lying, and I don't see why he would, the field is open to TDDVVCC, or what have you. That example, TDDVVCC, gives
1T + 2D + 1V + 1C + 4scum = 9 confirmed. Add the three other confirmed town, that's 12. Add me, that's 13. But that's only if Mattimeo or I is being stupid and lying about being a power role.
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(June 2nd, 2014, 00:50)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Quote:I’m going to assume you don’t actually mean you are glad you voted out an innocent, and assume you mean that you are ok with the fact that you would have voted in those specific circumstances again, with that specific information. That out of the way, what do you mean by “hardly voting to save comm.”?
Jabbz, take a step back from this and reconsider your arguments. I'm not saying you are getting emotional/angry, but you are having your judgement clouded by emotional reactions (this is what Zak meant about raging). Statements like the first part are what I mean by this, and are counterproductive to the town (another, lessor, example is Matt listing himself as innocent and Hasoosh as not) - all these biases leaking through can make it harder to play for people, and specifically here run the risk of reducing something to an unwarrented duel/rat-race in the way Rowain/Azarius were yesterday. Of course I meant given the specific information we had yesterday, just as people stating they would lynch Ryan again D1 meant it.
Anyway, I believe I had already explained it before (actually, another source of confusion appears, so to clarify before I reiterate, comm == Commodore == Goreripper), but I will reiterate. I voted Azarius within the first two hours of that day, and didn't have a chance to post again after that. Goreripper appeared as a serious candidate in the last 8 hours of the day so I was hardly voting to save him.
That line was honestly only about the comm. statement. I was joking about the "assume you are not serious" because of how people have overreacted to some rather banal comments so far.
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(June 2nd, 2014, 00:54)Mattimeo Wrote: Hashoosh: either you're lying, or I'm lying, or Catwalk is lying.
If Catwalk is not actually seer, DDVVVTT checks out (with Jabbz' recent claim), and would have 6 vanilla.
If Catwalk is actually seer, then as already stated there's only 5 vanilla. And that's me and the 4 dead dudes.
Looking past today:
Awfully convenient for Jabbz to claim right when he did. Right after I stated how the choice was between a 1-shot vig and the SK.
Would quite like to see what zak has to say about all this.
If you look back to yesterday, I was 100% open to claiming if everyone did. It isn't all that suspicious really. I did exactly what I said the other day, I waited until everyone seemed on board with claiming, then claimed.
(June 2nd, 2014, 00:55)Qgqqqqq Wrote: You killed novice then, Jabbz? Why didn't you shoot Rowain if he was who you had suspicions about?
Therefore the following claims have been made:- Qgqqqqq - Multi-shot Vigilante, killed D1 Sunrise, D2 Goreripper
- Catwalk - Multi-shot Cop, scanned D1 BRick, D2 Rowain
- Hasoosh - Vanilla
- Mattimeo - Vanilla
- Jabbz - One shot Vigilante, killed novice D1
The following have yet to claim:
Zakalwe
Because my suspcions about Rowaine were grounded largely in his attacks on Az, and I figured that a move could be made towards him rather easily on D2. I didn't think a move could be made against Novice, as his comments and seemed to go largely ignored by the general populace of the game.
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Finally, there's X X X X X X X
Is this possible?
DDVVV is required here. So, DDVVV X X. We need a configuration with at least 5 (I'm going to go ahead and believe myself) vanilla survivors. With 3 scum. So,
1D + 1sD + 1sV + 1V + 3 scum. That's 7, +5 vanilla means only one more power role. 2 letter combos for one power role:
+ DD for another doctor (don't think so...)
+ VV for another vigilante
+ BV for upgraded vigilante and 1 roleblocker
+ CC for cop
+ BC for cop and 1 role blocker
+ VC for cop and upgraded vigilante
But, this begs the question, why would Mattimeo lie?
I'm really leaning towards the clean solution here, TTDDVVV seems very likely. Going on that:
Hashoosh, Mattimeo - Vanilla Survivors
Jabbz - Claims 1sV
Zakalwe - No claim
Qgqqqq - Claims MsV
Catwalk - Seems to be claiming multi-shot power role. Doesn't really fit.
So, Zak and Catwalk are looking scummy going off this.
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