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FIFA definitely won't do anything to antagonise the Brasilians, they're probably aware of their shaky (to say the least) support in the country for the games.

Refs probably got told not to make any super controversial calls against the home team for a while.
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It is easy to criticize the ref when you have slow-motion and 4-5 different angles to judge. Things look quite different when you are on the field and have to make a decision within some tenths of a second.
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(June 13th, 2014, 05:01)Rowain Wrote: It is easy to criticize the ref when you have slow-motion and 4-5 different angles to judge. Things look quite different when you are on the field and have to make a decision within some tenths of a second.

Totally, but this was one of those where it looked like a dive at first glance
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(June 13th, 2014, 05:55)Twinkletoes89 Wrote:
(June 13th, 2014, 05:01)Rowain Wrote: It is easy to criticize the ref when you have slow-motion and 4-5 different angles to judge. Things look quite different when you are on the field and have to make a decision within some tenths of a second.

Totally, but this was one of those where it looked like a dive at first glance

Yes from the view of the camera where every player is small and easy visible. I was surprised by his call too.

But I don't know how it looked from the refs PoV. Especially as he wasn't that big. It would be interesting to use google glass or a head-cam so we can see what the ref saw.
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(June 12th, 2014, 22:00)NobleHelium Wrote: Or they could just suspend the shit out of people who are caught diving.

I'd love to see that, but in this case it wasn't a dive - he did make contact so the worst you can say is that he went down easily - and I don't think it was a reffing howler - if you put your hands on someone in the box you shouldn't be surprised to give away a penalty, the ref has no way of knowing how hard you pull or push, all he can see is that your hands are where they shouldn't be.

I thought the disallowed Croatia goal was a bad decision though. Was it for a foul on the keeper? My stream went down (in traditional ITV fashion) for the last ten minutes of the game so I didn't see the post-match analysis.

I read something about how reffing bias seeming to favour big clubs is a statistical illusion - refs make bad decisions fairly evenly, but if you hold possession in the opposition box more than they hold it in yours you'll get more dodgy penalties (and no-one remembers stonewall pens that get waved away). Can remember the source though.
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IMO, the Croatian non-goal was the right decision based on what I understand the precedent to be. The Croatian player did crash into the keeper inside the six-yard box, and as I understand it pretty much any contact with the keeper in there is paid a free kick.
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The Croatian non goal was the right call. Still stung for me, especially on the heels of that penalty goal...
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By the way, we would have won anyway, penalty or no penalty.

At least now there's an excuse for everyone to use when we get the sixth... mischief

And Oscar is one hell of a player. cool
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(June 13th, 2014, 08:31)Ichabod Wrote: By the way, we would have won anyway, penalty or no penalty.

At least now there's an excuse for everyone to use when we get the sixth... mischief

And Oscar is one hell of a player. cool

All trolling aside - do you really believe that? I'm a neutral but I thought Croatia were clearly the better side in the second half up to the penalty. I mean Croatia's goalkeeper was pretty terrible but then so is Brazil's. I thought for sure it was going to be like a 2-2 draw watching the game.
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Our manager is pretty great and I'm positive he'd know what to do to overcome the difficulties. Switching Paulinho for Hernanes made a big difference and it was like 5 minutes before the penalty, so the substitution worked. As I see it, Croatia was just passing the ball around with no effectiveness on the start of the second half, because they were content with the draw - no wonder they had more possession. But, more possession is not equal to being the better side.

So, yeah, I think Croatia wasn't a clear better side in the start of the second half and, even if it was, Felipão would solve the problem.

And if worst was coming to worst, Neymar would dive the hell out of Croatia. lol
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