[Spoilers] The Network assimilates ipecac, Ruff_Hi & Dreylin (Monty of Vikings)

[ipecac]

With PP, we're still getting the Library out by whip (also to pop borders) but I've scrapped the specialists plan, instead growing on cottages.

Oh, OK. Are you thinking of pushing for a GSci somewhere else, or delaying it until our economy's in better shape?

Delaying. We're Spi, it's not difficult for us to swap to Caste and force one out.

[Dreylin]

With PP, we're still getting the Library out by whip (also to pop borders) but I've scrapped the specialists plan, instead growing on cottages.

Oh, OK. Are you thinking of pushing for a GSci somewhere else, or delaying it until our economy's in better shape?

Delaying. We're Spi, it's not difficult for us to swap to Caste and force one out.

True. Of course we have to research to CoL before we can do that ... a task that's helped by an early Academy.

Looks like Adrien's played if you're still around (doubtful, I know).

[ipecac]

I don't think ZIF is any danger yet. There's 1T into walls, and now the Plan is to build Granary then Lighthouse (with two chops).

Zero Insertion Force is too long a name so we need to modify it or pick a new one

[Dreylin]

How about just "Zero Force"? Sound better than "Insertion Force", anyway...

[Dreylin]

"Zero Insertion" works too.

So here's the situation at the end of t96:


Looks like he's using the Worker to chop rather than road. IMO we should kill the Spear next turn if it doesn't move away (we had 90.9% this turn before promoting Shock) ... and the Axe if it moves into range. We have enough force in the area to accomplish both safely, and he owes us a Chariot. Maybe we use the Worker to scout and allow him to retake as a signal that this isn't an unending war of mutual destruction.

We have 2 Chariots and 3Axes in theatre, which is plenty of force for what we've seen so far.

[ipecac]

Looks like he's using the Worker to chop rather than road.

That's our forest!

I'm not sure why he left the Spear there; did you not attack this turn because of possible counterattacks?

[Dreylin]

Why didn't I attack this turn? Hmmm.

I think it was 2 things (maybe 3):

1) I wanted to consult you before going that far
2) We only had the one Axe in position (I thought) and couldn't have followed up in case of RNG spite
3) His Axe was out of range, and I'd rather get both on the same turn if we do attack.

Now of course he should probably withdraw next turn, but if he doesn't we can hit with all 3 Axes.

His Axe we can hit with both Chariots if he moves it forward. All our units in theatre are within borders.

Oh, and I didn't see a reason to rush to save the forest since he can't chop it down next turn. (I really hope it's not pre-chopped and he's using it as the last few hammers into the colossus).

BTW, we got 8 Beakers into Monarchy during our 1t, which I think means that someone else already has it researched...

[ipecac]

2) We only had the one Axe in position (I thought) and couldn't have followed up in case of RNG spite
3) His Axe was out of range, and I'd rather get both on the same turn if we do attack.

I agree. Though turnsplit again *groan*

Now of course he should probably withdraw next turn, but if he doesn't we can hit with all 3 Axes.

Oh, and I didn't see a reason to rush to save the forest since he can't chop it down next turn. (I really hope it's not pre-chopped and he's using it as the last few hammers into the colossus).

His closest city isn't the coastal one so it should be fine. Plus our chariot was around there a few turns ago and the worker was further off.

BTW, we got 8 Beakers into Monarchy during our 1t, which I think means that someone else already has it researched...

Good to know. Probably Whosit since no one we know is in HR now.

Working on the plan: with gold coming in T98 Smurf should grow from size 3 to size 7 in 7 turns Also, let's do the map trade with johns.

[Dreylin]

BTW, we got 8 Beakers into Monarchy during our 1t, which I think means that someone else already has it researched...

Good to know. Probably Whosit since no one we know is in HR now.

I'm not 100% convinced that it can be; don't you have to know the civ in question to get the discount?

Agree on the map trade with johns.

Actually, I was wrong, we can only hit the Spear with 2Axes and a Chariot. We can also hit his Axe (if it advances) with 2Chariots and an Axe. If we get both, do you want to offer a Peace Treaty or just a Cease Fire? Cease Fire would let us "give the Worker back" as I'd previously suggested, with a Peace Treaty we could chop that forest ourselves and then use it as a scout before letting it be recaptured (if we decide to take that route). Peace Treaty would also allow us to do all our Worker actions without guards. I was leaning Cease Fire, but now I'm leaning Peace Treaty.

What do we do if he moves the Spear away, but advances the Axe? I assume we kill it and re-offer the Cease Fire.

There's another Wines here, and we have 2 others. We could consider offering one to him for free once we have them hooked if we want to try soft diplomacy.

[ipecac]

I'm not 100% convinced that it can be; don't you have to know the civ in question to get the discount?

Actually, I was wrong, we can only hit the Spear with 2Axes and a Chariot. We can also hit his Axe (if it advances) with 2Chariots and an Axe. If we get both, do you want to offer a Peace Treaty or just a Cease Fire? Cease Fire would let us "give the Worker back" as I'd previously suggested, with a Peace Treaty we could chop that forest ourselves and then use it as a scout before letting it be recaptured (if we decide to take that route). Peace Treaty would also allow us to do all our Worker actions without guards. I was leaning Cease Fire, but now I'm leaning Peace Treaty.

What do we do if he moves the Spear away, but advances the Axe? I assume we kill it and re-offer the Cease Fire.

There's another Wines here, and we have 2 others. We could consider offering one to him for free once we have them hooked if we want to try soft diplomacy.

In principle, I don't like appeasement, but we don't wamt him trying to attack us with Praetorians. So if he doesn't have wine, I think it's a good try.