WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[Meiz]

Looking at the ditched roles, there's not too many people who would be hampered about the public info. Qgqqqqq, Lewwyn, novice, maybe Ichabod. Ichabod using this meta against Qgqq makes me think he has no part in it. I'm still giving the benefit of doubt for novice for now. Maybe Qgqq got mafia after all, with Lewwyn coming close as second.

[Jowy]

I don't really buy the challenge comment. Have you ever played scum in here? Anyways, you still got me halfway in your pocket

Always been town here. Our town kinda sucks, we've only managed to win minis recently.

[Qgqqqqq]

Too elaborate on why I think Qg post is too elaborate, I don't seem to recall him using things like "I'd..." (writing the same as if he was speaking), or italics and the all caps on some words. It seems like you've spent time crafting the post, which usually is a wolf tell, I think.

I assure you, I wrote that post in the last half hour, and on my phone just after waking up. If I'd pre prepared it than I would've had a link to the "It's happening" GIF, for a start, rather than typing it out. Anyway, that's beside the point. Anyone remember that game where I wrote a several hundred word flavor opening? I don't normally have any whim to flavor or interesting posts, and I'm sure they do come out a bit awkward anyway, but sometimes the mood strikes me.

And as to I'd...look through my posts sometime that's something I type out I texts, even.

[Jowy]

I got a bad feeling from Q's joke vote. Maybe a scum reluctant to start bussing a scummate novice right away?

[Qgqqqqq]

The throwaways that jump out at me are novice (does he really dislike scum that much? I've honestly never heard that before), Adrienler (that role would be such good fun on this setup. I don't have much of a read on Ad yet though), Azarius and Mattimeo.

IC I can get, as someone talked about earlier, same for Ichabod's backup. I don't recall what the hider did, but I remember thinking it was OMGUS bad.

[Qgqqqqq]

I got a bad feeling from Q's joke vote. Maybe a scum reluctant to start bussing a scummate novice right away?

You're omgusing me for not voting someone specific in their first post of the day?

[Meiz]

Town hider straight up dies if he visits mafia / SK, so yeah, it's not a good role.

[Jowy]

Town hider straight up dies if he visits mafia / SK, so yeah, it's not a good role.

It's fantastic actually. 1:1 trade is always good for town, and if you hide behind someone and you don't die, you confirm them as town. Only downside is that you've gotta leave hints about who you hid behind so that town knows who to lynch after you die.

[dtay]

Dtays comment about lynching those who rejected power roles seems quite flawed, really - sure there might be some scum among them, but there's also likely to be the best town roles. I don't think we want to draw those into the open - certainly not this early.

From the perspective of the Mafia, they're already "drawn into the open", since if the scum see a reject <great-role> and it wasn't one of them then they're already likely to kill that person.

The more salient point is yes, a person who rejected a 2nd tier town role is likely to either be mafia or have a tier 1 town role. It does come down to, if you could rule out someone being all the bad town roles (which is essentially what someone rejecting Doctor allows), do you want to lynch that person? They are undeniably more likely to be mafia than town, but if town are likely to be power-town.

But while the risk is there, unless we get an actual read on someone taking those odds seems better than just picking at random. And pressure creates reads. And pushing suspicions creates pressure. And since there's not really a "draw into the open" downside to pushing suspicions, we should therefore push on the suspicious rejections until we get a read or the day runs out.

[Qgqqqqq]

Mafia don't die if you hide behind them, unless I'm reading it wrong.

So basically it's a one-off cop role that requires knowledge in advance of who you're targeting. I'd take pretty much anything over that.