WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[zakalwe]

Twinkletoes89 - Hider - This role just looks fun as hell to me, especially combined with doctors (he obviously wouldn't have expected Novice to get GF and throw away town doc) There are just a lot of opportunities for this role to have significant impact on the game.

What does the bolded part mean?

[Mattimeo]

I'm a cop, obviously. Also busy atm.

...can't tell if facetious or actual claim.

Rowan: I find it interesting that you're voting me based on not taking a role that has a maximum detection range of 2 of the 54 possible roles, rather than, say, Azarius, who discarded an unquestionably better role.
In fact, I can't see a better role than full Cop there, so I'd be quite interested in why Azarius ditched it.

Dislike phone posting. Work now. Post more when I get home this afternoon. Few things I'd've liked to include in here will have to be covered then.

[Ichabod]

Twinkletoes89 - Hider - This role just looks fun as hell to me, especially combined with doctors (he obviously wouldn't have expected Novice to get GF and throw away town doc) There are just a lot of opportunities for this role to have significant impact on the game.

What does the bolded part mean?

If that's a wolf slip, it's the funniest I've ever seen.

[AdrienIer]

Azarius, who discarded an unquestionably better role.
In fact, I can't see a better role than full Cop there, so I'd be quite interested in why Azarius ditched it.

Vanilla cop is not full cop, it's one of the worse roles around.

Well Novice at least had the decency to "claim", whatever truth is in that statement. Still a better defense than Qgqqqqq

[Fenn]

Azarius discarded Vanilla Cop, not Cop Cop. Not a particularly strong role.

Leaving Novice aside for the moment, could we hear from Twinkletoes?

[Azarius]

I'm a cop, obviously. Also busy atm.

...can't tell if facetious or actual claim.

Rowan: I find it interesting that you're voting me based on not taking a role that has a maximum detection range of 2 of the 54 possible roles, rather than, say, Azarius, who discarded an unquestionably better role.
In fact, I can't see a better role than full Cop there, so I'd be quite interested in why Azarius ditched it.

Dislike phone posting. Work now. Post more when I get home this afternoon. Few things I'd've liked to include in here will have to be covered then.

I've already explained why I didn't take, and also explained that's it's not in fact a full cop, as have many others. It seems sort of uncharacteristic for you to miss stuff like this.

Twinkletoes89 - Hider - This role just looks fun as hell to me, especially combined with doctors (he obviously wouldn't have expected Novice to get GF and throw away town doc) There are just a lot of opportunities for this role to have significant impact on the game.

What does the bolded part mean?

I can only think of one thing that abbreviation means, and I really don't know what that statement is supposed to convey in that case. Other than Ichabod's suggestion anyways. So I too would like an explanation of this.

Fake Edit: X-post with others pointing out my actual discarded role.

[Jabbz]

Twinkletoes89 - Hider - This role just looks fun as hell to me, especially combined with doctors (he obviously wouldn't have expected Novice to get GF and throw away town doc) There are just a lot of opportunities for this role to have significant impact on the game.

What does the bolded part mean?

My thoughts on the hider is that he would be especially powerful if there is a doctor in the game. I picture the scenario where hider hides behind IC or similarly known/trusted townie, and doc protects the one he is hiding behind. Two are safe for the price of one, and, as the hider is obviously outing his target beforehand, if he pops up dead, it's a confirmed wolf he went behind. Given A: how powerful a doc is, and B: the # of roles in the game, increasing the likelihood of someone having that as an option, it is a reasonable assumption that there is one to pair with in the game.

My observation about Novice is just me saying that I think he got a good wolf role, or SK, and that's why he was willing to give up the powerful doc role. GF is one of those, others would be strongman, 1shot gov, and 1shot day wolf. I'm not sure if I buy his cop claim, but it does at least temporarily take the pressure off him, as it really is kind of in our best interests to see whom he claims as scum, and if he isn't a cop, there is a reasonable chance we have a real one in our ranks.

If that's a wolf slip, it's the funniest I've ever seen.

Give me some credit

[Jabbz]

Oh, and for the moment no vote. It's likely to stay there for a while, as I am finishing up a paper for class. I may post a bit, but unlikely to change vote until 9-10 pst.

[zakalwe]

"Hider: During the Night, you may PM me the name of another player. You will "hide" behind that player, making you immune to any actions that target you. However, if you hide behind a non-Town-aligned player, you will die."

This does seem very powerful, btw. Almost on par with a cop, if the action immunity also applies to kills.

Crosspost.

[novice]

Too elaborate on why I think Qg post is too elaborate

It's wolfy because those posts are a good way of appearing to make content without making actual content. They talk about "general rules" and are, thus, generic, not related to any specific situation or player (only marginally). So, when doing this, you avoid things like contradicting yourself when presenting an argument (which happens when playing wolf), or stepping on someone else's toe when making a case (which can quickly turn into a revenge vote, which you don't want when playing wolf), but you also give the appearance of content.

Well yes, but you can still contradict yourself by making a specific case later that interferes with your earlier general argument.

It's happening!!!!

[Day one LYNCH! Day one LYNCH! Day one LYNCH!]

Lynchpocalypse is coming, my friends. It comes for us all in the end, but today? Today it comes for me.


Anyway, yeah I got town/town :/ Not that it matters, for today I get to help the scum in an entirely unique and fascinating way - by becoming the instant topic of the day for them to dump votes on

I'd...rather not share why I rejected roleblocker, specifically. But I will say this: in one of my most recent games (not on this site) I rolled a boosted-jailkeeper (they also got to neighborize the people they jailsd) and honestly it wasn't a role I enjoyed much. Not only was RB a repeat of that - in a game packed with roles - it was a weaker version, and it's one that has significant downsides (I've never been very good with difficult roles, day 1 in that game I jailed our only cop thinking they were scum). So yeah, I chose against it.

Bobchillingworth, you were offered a chance to repeat last game, why wouldn't you take it?

Scummy post.

1. Victim card.
2. "I'll go nicely." (easiest town persona to mimic)
3. Mumbo jumbo about his role. (I expected him to just say that his other role was stronger, but he almost seems to hint at the opposite.)
4. Joke vote to leave no trace.

Later posts may be better, but this one was pretty terrible.

I agree that it's pretty terrible. Where did he hint at his actual role being weaker, though?

I'm a cop, obviously. Also busy atm.

...can't tell if facetious or actual claim.

Actual claim.

My thoughts on the hider is that he would be especially powerful if there is a doctor in the game. I picture the scenario where hider hides behind IC or similarly known/trusted townie, and doc protects the one he is hiding behind. Two are safe for the price of one, and, as the hider is obviously outing his target beforehand, if he pops up dead, it's a confirmed wolf he went behind. Given A: how powerful a doc is, and B: the # of roles in the game, increasing the likelihood of someone having that as an option, it is a reasonable assumption that there is one to pair with in the game.

Sounds like a lot of moving parts, and you still have to actually lynch the outed scum. Maybe it's more powerful than is immediately apparent, but I could easily see TT discarding it.

I have an early flight tomorrow for a work trip so I may be awol until tomorrow night.