(January 28th, 2015, 16:08)Azarius Wrote: I've already explained why I didn't take, and also explained that's it's not in fact a full cop, as have many others.
My bad on that, mistook Vanilla for Village. Phone, just woken up and late for work do not make for the best analysis.
Discarded Roles:
Molach -
Vanilla Townie
Jkaen -
Vanilla Townie
Fenn -
Vanilla Townie
Gazglum -
Vanilla Townie
- Honestly even actively bad roles that still involve you doing something are more fun than VT. No tells.
Jabbz -
Mafia Goon
Dtay -
Mafia Goon
- No tell other than that implicit in having a scum card to discard.
Meiz -
Mafia Lover
- Equal most entertaining role in the game when tied with a town counterpart
and win conditions change to reflect that. Otherwise (as is the case here) shit unless you *really* want scum. No tell other than that implicit in having a scum card to discard.
Jowy -
Mafia Tracker
- strong scum role. Mild town lean applied to the implicit scum discard.
Bobchillingworth -
Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie
- bad role, obvious ditch. No tell.
Zakalwe -
Tourist
- 3 negative village combinations (watcher, tracker, bomb) 1 positive scum (tracker). No tell.
Rowain -
Lover
- Fun if the possibility of scum-town lovers altering win conditions is a thing. Liability otherwise. No tell.
Lewwyn -
Innocent Child
- strong, but very boring role. He's explained why he didn't take it. No tell.
Adrienler -
One-shot Paranoid Gun Owner
- Better than nothing, but not excessively good. Mid+ tier or scum.
Twinkletoes89 -
Hider
- everyone seems to be wanking this well beyond actual utility.
Can be useful late game if you can confirm a few townies, but the death on 'successful seer' means it's much more useful to try to bait night-kills while dodging in the same safe place you've hidden since N1. Does imply mid to high tier town, or scum.
Azarius -
Vanilla Cop
- reasonable role, but not that strong (other than testing VT claims), given the rather high proportion of actual roles in this setup. Kept middle->high tier town role, or scum.
Ichabod -
Backup Doctor
- Does require a doctor to exist to function at all. Decent role, but not exceptional. Mid+ or scum.
Qgqqqqq -
Roleblocker
- strong role. Claims not wanting to play because similar to recent game. Kept either scum or strong.
Novice -
Doctor
- Very strong. Claimed Cop to explain why.
Mattimeo -
FBI Agent
- What're the odds on the two purple balls being among the 16/54 remaining in the bag? Or the 16/35 now, I suppose. Completely useless in that situation. And rather specific target otherwise.
Also, SK-won (or at least, -competitive) games are the best. I don't want to be a spoilsport
Yeah, sure, it's a mid-high tier role. But fuck it.
In short: scum suspicions based on discard are pretty much me, novice, Qgqqqqq and the people who ditched scum. I do not believe this is worth basing a vote on at this point.
(January 28th, 2015, 19:50)Bobchillingworth Wrote: @ Fenn- I'm not voting for novice because I want him to role reveal; pressuring people into telling everyone their powers on penalty of death is a terrible village strategy. I just think he's the best person to hang, given the information on hand.
Note: he has already confirmed that it was a full reveal.
While I appreciate you might want revenge for being lynched as a strongly town role last game, I really don't think the best way to go about it is to attempt the
exact same thing as was done to you, especially in a game where you don't have the excuse of 'most of the people voting are scum and actively wanting to get rid of a strong town role.
Bobchillingworth
