February 1st, 2015, 14:33
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(February 1st, 2015, 10:10)Meiz Wrote: I'm not opposed of lynching dtay either. Looking back at his game, he did go for novice & lewwyn based on the meta (throwing away good roles), but ends up picking Qgqq as his top suspect, and disappeared for rest of the day (could be time zone issue though). But looking back, I'm not going to give much town credit for his early votes on confirmed scums.
IMO Ichabod has a good summary on his day one, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid518937
I would say I thought novice was most likely scum, but wanted the day 2 cop verification to see. Qqqqq yes I thought was more suspicious than lew.
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February 1st, 2015, 14:47
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(January 31st, 2015, 18:19)Bobchillingworth Wrote: I understand that, and I'm not voting for you [TT] because you discarded the role.
No, you're voting for TT because he was happy to lynch one claimed cop but then suddenly decided that all cops should live. Except TT has already refuted that argument, pointing out that he was offline from before Q's claim and until he voted for Jabbz.
So why are you voting for TT, again?
If you know what I mean.
February 1st, 2015, 14:55
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(February 1st, 2015, 13:39)Gazglum Wrote: Zzzzz.
Twinkletoes, what are your feelings on doing a role reveal?
I'd rather avoid it to be honest, I feel I've made strong arguments defending myself and am reluctant to give the scum more information than absolutely necessary.
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February 1st, 2015, 15:26
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In terms of the dtay suspicion, I am torn.
I still give him some leash because I still see him as a new player that is seemingly trying to be helpful to village whilst learning how to read people properly. His play reminds me of my early games where I was trying to contribute in some way when I felt a bit incompetent because I wasn't familiar with the nuances of the game. There's only one major difference from that that sticks out for me, and I'll be interested to see if it comes up.
My main worry with him is that he could just be a good actor. He is posting in the 'perfect range' of just enough to notice his avatar enough on a quick scan through, but not so much that there's much to tie him to. His posts are often quite 'neutral' as well which is a little unusual.
He was quick to pop in when his name started gaining traction, hopped on to me on a case he admits he 'hasn't verified himself' - likely because that ties me up with him. That also concerns me.
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February 1st, 2015, 15:34
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Also, I would like to hear more from Molach and Rowain.
Molach has played a similar 'quiet' role to what I remember him playing, but he hasn't said much of anything today. Though he's voted at least.
Rowain was pretty visible on Day One and yet on Day Two I've barely noticed him. Maybe there are extenuating reasons for this, but it is a distinct change. I'm also surprised that while he's named some people he'd be happy to lynch, he's not really justified why they are on that list or voted for them.
(February 1st, 2015, 03:20)Rowain Wrote: I would like to lynch one of those 5:
Azarius, Bob, dtay, Fenn and Jkaen. [/color]
Rowain
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February 1st, 2015, 15:36
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(February 1st, 2015, 14:47)zakalwe Wrote: No, you're voting for TT because he was happy to lynch one claimed cop but then suddenly decided that all cops should live. Except TT has already refuted that argument, pointing out that he was offline from before Q's claim and until he voted for Jabbz.
So why are you voting for TT, again?
It's a tough call to make. If TT is scum, then he has every reason to claim that he was offline at the time, regardless of what the situation really was. If he's telling the truth, then I agree there isn't much more reason to vote for him than most other people.
I can buy that he simply wasn't around, even though it was a long period of time. I haven't been particularly active (or available) either.
I'm not happy that Gazglum keeps pushing TT to role reveal, and I really didn't like his going after me for voting novice (post cop claim), but he did jump on Lewwyn at a time when Lew was seriously risking a lynching, so that's to his credit.
I'm going to switch to Molach, who made a fairly good voting history-based case against himself in post #621, which seems to have oddly subsequently gone ignored. He's certainly as bad as TT in that regard, and he doesn't have as convincing an excuse.
His argument that Jabbz is suspicious for having never been mentioned by Lewwyn is silly as well; I doubt most of us have mentioned every other player. I believe this is my first post naming Molach in any capacity.
February 1st, 2015, 16:17
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(February 1st, 2015, 15:36)Bobchillingworth Wrote: His argument that Jabbz is suspicious for having never been mentioned by Lewwyn is silly as well; I doubt most of us have mentioned every other player. I believe this is my first post naming Molach in any capacity.
That's different. His point was that Jabbz was one of the leading people and in case he's town, scum-Lewwyn's best bet for going after.
What's your opinion of Jkaen and dtay?
February 1st, 2015, 16:20
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(February 1st, 2015, 15:36)Bobchillingworth Wrote: I can buy that he simply wasn't around, even though it was a long period of time. I haven't been particularly active (or available) either.
Well, the point isn't really whether he was truly offline or not. The point is that you accused him of pushing a claimed cop, which was false, since he didn't post anything after Q made his claim.
I'm not getting a good vibe from Bob here. And I don't really understand how TT can keep listing him as a town lean.
If you know what I mean.
February 1st, 2015, 16:21
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I've been reading through Dtay's posts, and the very beginning was pretty good. Basically what you expect from a new player, with small meta included in apparently genuine opinions on the game. Basically this is ok
(January 28th, 2015, 13:13)dtay Wrote: Finally, trying to avoid going too deep into the maths, but it's worth calculating what the probability that at least 1 player got scum/scum is, since it affects the degree of town-lean we want to give people who rejected scum.
But what came next was actually going way too deep into the maths. But his votes were pretty good, Q like many people then novice like most people then Lewwyn when novice claimed (before most people) then back to Q like, once again, many people. He pressured Lewwyn pretty hard when he had 3 or 4 votes which points at him not being mafia. So even if I had my doubts at first, and that his crusade on Q was very strong (to the point of keeping his vote on him to the end)
(January 29th, 2015, 21:04)dtay Wrote: At this point I think it's going to take something very meaningful happening for me to not want to lynch Qqqqqqqqq
I don't think he's wolf. He could be SK, or just a townie trying to get reads on people on his first game, which isn't easy, having played my first game a week ago I can understand that. I really can't see the pattern for a wolf-Dtay here.
That's actually problematic for me, I wanted to cast a vote before sleep but the case on Dtay wasn't as promising as I thought.
February 1st, 2015, 16:23
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(February 1st, 2015, 16:20)zakalwe Wrote: Well, the point isn't really whether he was truly offline or not. The point is that you accused him of pushing a claimed cop, which was false, since he didn't post anything after Q made his claim.
I'm not getting a good vibe from Bob here. And I don't really understand how TT can keep listing him as a town lean.
I agree, not getting good vibes at all. I don't really like the Molach push either.
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