February 4th, 2015, 01:38
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(February 4th, 2015, 01:21)zakalwe Wrote: One thing that was distinctly odd to me was the way Lewwyn kept saying "Meiz and Zak" in all his retorts. It's possible that he wanted Meiz to gain towncred while setting me up.
I think it's two parts. Wanting to avoid conflict with you, and possibly make you look like his partner by mostly ignoring you (as he likes to do as scum).
February 4th, 2015, 01:41
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At least I felt he was mostly focusing on attacking me and kept just side-mentioning your name in the process.
February 4th, 2015, 02:03
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Ichabod, are you claiming that if TT is the other SK then he also chose not to shoot on night 1 for some reason?
February 4th, 2015, 03:16
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Molach, why did you vote TT? http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid519404
Putting the votes to:
6 votes: Bob (Jowy, AdrienIer, zakalwe, Meiz, Jkaen, dtay)
4 votes: dtay (Ichabod, Fenn, Qgqqqqq, Twinkletoes89)
4 votes: Twinkletoes89 (Jabbz, Azarius,Gazglum, Molach)
1 votes: Molach (Bobchillingworth)
As far as I can see, you didn't give any opinion on Bob & dtay on day 2. Why not?
February 4th, 2015, 03:49
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I wonder how long Azarius will spend dodging the thread.
February 4th, 2015, 03:50
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He's probably waiting for TT and Jabbz to claim first so he has a better shot at fake claiming.
February 4th, 2015, 04:15
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Maybe we should lynch Azarius instead.. He discarded Vanilla Cop so he needs a somewhat strong claim, and now he's stalling by dodging the thread. Thoughts on that?
February 4th, 2015, 04:26
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There's no rush, we can wait for him to post.
February 4th, 2015, 05:16
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Just to clarify, I will not claim today. Doing so will only help the mafia pick their targets and possibly better avoid being caught as the difference between what a tracker or watcher can see is important.
As far as I can see it, lynching Ichabod is the only play today. To trust anything else is taking a huge risk. Ichabod keeps talking of there being a second SK, so what's to stop him killing someone and blaming it on someone who may or may not exist? Additionally, if there is a second SK, that means a possible three deaths tonight which could gut the village and leave them having to lynch two SKs who can't die at night.
Whether there is or isn't that second guy that Ichabod claims, he simply has to die. We have so long left in the day that we can spin our wheels so much that we lose focus, but it's not worth it.
I'm happy for us to use this time to try and shake some branches and I get people talking, but claiming today is not a good idea. Let whatever night kills clear up a claim or two and then claim when we don't have a stone cold lynch to rely on. Anyone advocating a reveal now is only making it easier for the scum.
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February 4th, 2015, 06:52
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(February 4th, 2015, 00:50)Fenn Wrote: I think Meiz is town at this point, he's contributed decently throughout the game and his D1 interactions with Lewwyn count for a lot in my mind. As for the idea that those interactions were manufactured, imo that's reading a little too much into it. Arguments between two players are rarely completely natural, and an argument can be a little unnatural while still being genuine, if that makes sense.
I want to suspect TT, but the fact that he specifically called out Ichabod for killing indicates that he is indeed a tracker or watcher. Possibly if TT and Ichabod are both mafia TT is saccing Ichabod to gain town points, but that's an extremely unlikely and risky maneuver and I don't think they'd attempt it if they were mafia together. More likely Ichabod is SK and TT is town.
He could not know I killed someone for certain from whatever town role left. Watcher/tracker would only show that I visited Adrien, but for all TT knows, I could be the other tracker/watcher and just visited Adrien using my power.
The fact TT said I killed someone, not that I visited someone, nor that I visited a specific player, is pretty telling. He revealed the one thing that he couldn't be sure of with a watcher/tracker role and left off both things a watcher/tracker role would know! Notice how he, in none of his posts, says I went for a specific player! I was dumb at the moment of my reveal, saying who I targeted and making things simple for him and, for that, I apologize (well, guess no one would believe me disproving him either).
Trust me on this, villagers. TT is the other SK. There's just no reasoning behind claiming the way he did against me and his play is incredibly scummy throughout the whole game. All the shananigans about not claiming when he was under suspicion is pure SK play, afraid of counterclaims (why do that as a tracker/watcher?). The crying about the hider role was likely because he wanted to claim bulletproof villager and was looking for a way out of the arguments he made a bad choice.
I'd be glad to shoot him tonight, if you guys want and let me live. otherwise, just promise you'll lynch him before the game is over.
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