WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[Ichabod]

Ichabod, are you claiming that if TT is the other SK then he also chose not to shoot on night 1 for some reason?

It's the obvious SK play, in my eyes. I didn't shoot anyone, for instance. He could also have shot Lew, but I think that was Adrien.

Notice how TT focused on my call for Vig claims on day 2: there's where the idea of killing me on night 2 probably came (for all TT knew, since he wasn't the one killing Lewwyn, there was a second SK). Either I was the SK or the vig, in his eyes, both good SK results to go for.

And since it's "obvious" that TT is a tracker/watcher after his reveal against me, why not just claim? What do you think Mafia would do different based on that? The roles are just the same for what Mafia is concerned, the only way they have around it works for both (roleblock or ninja). He's stalling for time, praying that a tracker or watcher dies or reveals first.

Please, everyone, leave me alive for tonight so I can shoot TT. I'd be so, so, so happy about it. And I guarantee you he'll flip SK. Later you can kill me or whatever, but just let me have this last taste of glory before the last night comes...

[Jkaen]

If TT knows you are the other SK because he failed to kill you, how did he know you were not the bulletproof villager? Or protected by the possible remaining village doctor, or mafia doctor, or mafia roleblocker?

[Molach]

Molach, why did you vote TT? http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthrea...#pid519404
Putting the votes to:

6 votes: Bob (Jowy, AdrienIer, zakalwe, Meiz, Jkaen, dtay)
4 votes: dtay (Ichabod, Fenn, Qgqqqqq, Twinkletoes89)
4 votes: Twinkletoes89 (Jabbz, Azarius,Gazglum, Molach)
1 votes: Molach (Bobchillingworth)

As far as I can see, you didn't give any opinion on Bob & dtay on day 2. Why not?

Phone.
I didn't give my thoughts on TT either, for that matter.
Sunday +monday was very busy so I just went with the one I felt was best of the 3 after following thread mostly by phone.
He had refused to claim and yet discarded a pr. I was on to switch if he did claim, in which case I might have gone bob over dtay. From what I remember the case on dtay didnt appeal much to me.
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agree with TT above.

[Jkaen]

Also other than your word, how do we know you are the bulletproof SK rather than either scum, or the mafia proof SK?

[Jkaen]

Don't get me wrong, I agree TT could well be the scum proof SK, but I am just a bit wary of trusting the man in the white van offering me sweets

[Molach]

Ichabod, are you claiming that if TT is the other SK then he also chose not to shoot on night 1 for some reason?

It's the obvious SK play, in my eyes. I didn't shoot anyone, for instance. He could also have shot Lew, but I think that was Adrien.

Notice how TT focused on my call for Vig claims on day 2: there's where the idea of killing me on night 2 probably came (for all TT knew, since he wasn't the one killing Lewwyn, there was a second SK). Either I was the SK or the vig, in his eyes, both good SK results to go for.

And since it's "obvious" that TT is a tracker/watcher after his reveal against me, why not just claim? What do you think Mafia would do different based on that? The roles are just the same for what Mafia is concerned, the only way they have around it works for both (roleblock or ninja). He's stalling for time, praying that a tracker or watcher dies or reveals first.

Please, everyone, leave me alive for tonight so I can shoot TT. I'd be so, so, so happy about it. And I guarantee you he'll flip SK. Later you can kill me or whatever, but just let me have this last taste of glory before the last night comes...

Sorry for quoting all of this, phone sucks.

I said it earlier.
If village has tracker you need the killer to not be followed.
If village has watcher you need target to not be watched.
...this is a difference, they are free to choose killer and target so they have less freedom without claim.

[Meiz]

Phone.
I didn't give my thoughts on TT either, for that matter.
Sunday +monday was very busy so I just went with the one I felt was best of the 3 after following thread mostly by phone.
He had refused to claim and yet discarded a pr. I was on to switch if he did claim, in which case I might have gone bob over dtay. From what I remember the case on dtay didnt appeal much to me.

You see, that's a slight problem. What are your thought on the players alive?

[Twinkletoes89]

Ichabod, are you claiming that if TT is the other SK then he also chose not to shoot on night 1 for some reason?

It's the obvious SK play, in my eyes. I didn't shoot anyone, for instance. He could also have shot Lew, but I think that was Adrien.

Notice how TT focused on my call for Vig claims on day 2: there's where the idea of killing me on night 2 probably came (for all TT knew, since he wasn't the one killing Lewwyn, there was a second SK). Either I was the SK or the vig, in his eyes, both good SK results to go for.

And since it's "obvious" that TT is a tracker/watcher after his reveal against me, why not just claim? What do you think Mafia would do different based on that? The roles are just the same for what Mafia is concerned, the only way they have around it works for both (roleblock or ninja). He's stalling for time, praying that a tracker or watcher dies or reveals first.

Please, everyone, leave me alive for tonight so I can shoot TT. I'd be so, so, so happy about it. And I guarantee you he'll flip SK. Later you can kill me or whatever, but just let me have this last taste of glory before the last night comes...

Sorry for quoting all of this, phone sucks.

I said it earlier.
If village has tracker you need the killer to not be followed.
If village has watcher you need target to not be watched.
...this is a difference, they are free to choose killer and target so they have less freedom without claim.

This.

[Molach]

@Meiz:
Still waiting on azarius. I think he claims first.
Wary of Fenn.
Jabbz I talked about before...phone so no link sorry.
Feel good about Jowy and Zak.

TT is 99%. Q...well if he keeps stayin' alive and failing to scan I might reassess.

Havent looked too much on the rest, middle-men, can do when on a laptop.

For one thing, if TT is town then 3 villagers on trial last day, anyone hopping about near lynch should get a slight +town. Like Rowglum.....oh.

[Molach]

Re azarius I mean claim first tomorrow...