February 4th, 2015, 16:13
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TT it is apparent you have two choices here. You can out yourself, and we can lynch Ichabod, and discuss between you and Jowy tomorrow who should die. Or you can not claim, then we kill you tonight. If you are town, and you genuinely care about the town, the town benefits more from having your role weakened (potentially) than it does by mislynching you. Further, in case I'm wrong about Jowy, you both could be telling the truth, and then your either or claim holds no water.
Either way, your refusal to claim stops us from killing the individual you think should die. Thus you are the one screwing the town.
So yeah, make your call.
February 4th, 2015, 16:13
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(February 4th, 2015, 13:31)Jkaen Wrote: Ahh this makes sense. If we assume that there are 2 active sk's and that an attempt on q was blocked last night I think reading the reaction today shows who the second SK is. I would like people to read without my bias but if you want I will state outright who I think it is
Speaking of lunacy... 
How on earth do you think I'm the SK? Why would I target Qg when he'd be the obvious choice for doctor protection? Especially now that Qg claims he was roleblocked, which would remove another avenue of blocking my theoretical SK powers, the idea that I'm a Serial Killer who attempted to kill Qg last night is absurd. Like Jabbz said there's no reason to assume there was a failed attempt on Qg's life last night - SK wouldn't do it, Mafia would've used a Strongman.
February 4th, 2015, 16:14
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(February 4th, 2015, 16:09)Jowy Wrote: Mafia have a Roleblocker and a Strongman. They dared to go for Mattimeo N1 because they had the Strongman. They left Q alive and roleblocked him, hoping for a miss-lynch. Who else they would have roleblocked on N2? I don't remember any other power roles being outed at that point.
We don't know that the mafia roleblocker is in play. But I agree that is a plausible scenario.
If you know what I mean.
February 4th, 2015, 16:16
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Whoa this thread has been moving fast. TT should definitely claim at this point.
February 4th, 2015, 16:18
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Qg is town by play. It's a read I'm very confident in. Roleblocker is not confirmed to be in the game, and I didn't say it was, but to me it makes perfect sense that there is one.
February 4th, 2015, 16:24
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TT I've had a town read on you and I get the feeling you're just a very stubborn townie. Please work with us.
February 4th, 2015, 16:26
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If you want me to claim, then sufficiently explain this.
Why are we suddenly so desperate to try and 'strike it lucky' on this day and not take the free lynch of a proven killer who cannot be night killed? We are unlikely to be at lylo tomorrow by removing a proven threat and yet now we want to give away the store.
You've seen Jowy's action by trying to call me out. What is there to stop him from calling bullshit on whatever claim I make? Where's the proof he's right? I am not playing russian roulette with a fully loaded gun as I'm not stupid.
We have a completely useless cop who has produced nothing of value with his scans - possibly due to a 'roleblocker' but there's no other proof of that.
You can't tell me that you are suddenly going to believe my claim even if I make it, so why should I? I'm not making my mislynch even easier and giving Jowy the chance to establish 'town credentials' for doing nothing provable.
Additionally, I'm not playing to just survive the day. I'm trying to provide some level of cover so that if I survive this farce of a day, I have a chance to do some scum hunting. Its not like they are going to roleblock me and let Q get a free scan... Unless Q is lying.
You can pressure me as much as you like, but this farce will do nothing to prove my innocence and I am not inclined to play along.
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
February 4th, 2015, 16:28
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If you take the 50% flip to be instantly caught, and you pass it, I'll believe you are town. As SK you'd just continue the tirade and take your chances that way.
February 4th, 2015, 16:31
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(February 4th, 2015, 16:28)Jowy Wrote: If you take the 50% flip to be instantly caught, and you pass it, I'll believe you are town. As SK you'd just continue the tirade and take your chances that way.
I can play this game too...
If you are what you claim, and my claim isn't the same as yours, then you'll believe me.
If you are scum/SK, you will call bullshit on whatever I say to ensure a mislynch.
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
February 4th, 2015, 16:33
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(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: Why are we suddenly so desperate to try and 'strike it lucky' on this day and not take the free lynch of a proven killer who cannot be night killed? We are unlikely to be at lylo tomorrow by removing a proven threat and yet now we want to give away the store.
We are lynching the SK today. And I was always going to claim today myself, because I'm not risking going to the grave with a scum and a town confirmations.
(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: You've seen Jowy's action by trying to call me out. What is there to stop him from calling bullshit on whatever claim I make? Where's the proof he's right? I am not playing russian roulette with a fully loaded gun as I'm not stupid.
If I was scum I wouldn't take a 50:50. I'd probably just get you lynched, which is the opposite of what I'm doing right now (I'm trying to get you cleared as town).
(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: We have a completely useless cop who has produced nothing of value with his scans - possibly due to a 'roleblocker' but there's no other proof of that.
You are right. I read the play and I trust my read, but everyone is free to make their own judgement, just as I am.
(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: You can't tell me that you are suddenly going to believe my claim even if I make it, so why should I? I'm not making my mislynch even easier and giving Jowy the chance to establish 'town credentials' for doing nothing provable.
I will. And I think I have all the town cred I could ever want.
(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: Additionally, I'm not playing to just survive the day. I'm trying to provide some level of cover so that if I survive this farce of a day, I have a chance to do some scum hunting. Its not like they are going to roleblock me and let Q get a free scan... Unless Q is lying.
I'm sure you're doing what you think is best.
(February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: You can pressure me as much as you like, but this farce will do nothing to prove my innocence and I am not inclined to play along.
But it might catch you if you are not innocent. And at least for me it's enough to convince me that you are town if you claim the right role.
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