February 4th, 2015, 16:38
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Right now TT, you leave us thinking you're guilty. We lynch you. You turn up innocent. That doesn't prove Jowy wrong, just means he was the opposite of you. You actually make it easier for him.
If instead you claim, and he says you lie, one of you will die at some point yes, and if you are innocent , and you die, then Jowy is confirmed mafia sk.
Those are the only two scenarios. Period. If you don't claim, you swing. Period. Azarius not showing wouldn't trump that. Nothing trumps that. Your stubornness in the face of everything only shows scum doing everything they can do to not get outed. If you are scum, cool, you die tonight. If you aren't play ball, don't fuck your buddies, and lets actually accomplish something.
February 4th, 2015, 16:43
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Just so we're clear on this, I'm going to say which role I am no matter what, because I need to explain the confirms. So if you are town, scum will know your role regardless. So if you are town, and you don't claim your role, it just means that you're going to look much more suspicious than you would if you had claimed, and you might get miss-lynched at some point.
February 4th, 2015, 16:44
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(February 4th, 2015, 16:33)Jowy Wrote: (February 4th, 2015, 16:26)Twinkletoes89 Wrote: Why are we suddenly so desperate to try and 'strike it lucky' on this day and not take the free lynch of a proven killer who cannot be night killed? We are unlikely to be at lylo tomorrow by removing a proven threat and yet now we want to give away the store.
We are lynching the SK today. And I was always going to claim today myself, because I'm not risking going to the grave with a scum and a town confirmations.
So that's why I'm being voted for...? Sure doesn't look like lynching the SK to me.
I struggle to trust any of you with your word right now. There's mafia and an SK out there who may well be able to call bullshit on me. I'm not letting them seal my fate with lies. This is my only way to fight.
Ichabod would be deep cover and ready to kill with impunity if it wasn't for me. I have done more to advance the village cause than our uber-cleared uber-cop who has done fuck all. He can just claim roleblock night after night to ensure that noone will every question the fact that he's done nothing.
I am not claiming. I do not understand how you cannot see that I am in an impossible situation once I claim. By not claiming, I am ensuring that mafia can't fake claim the roles as they will wait for me. And I will also continue to make them take the 50/50 shot on my role and avoiding detection.
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
February 4th, 2015, 16:47
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Try addressing my claims then TT, because you are only engaging in open hostility with Jowy, which gives you a veneer of credibility. The fact that you ignore my arguments completely strips it away, and then some.
February 4th, 2015, 16:48
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(February 4th, 2015, 16:38)Jabbz Wrote: Right now TT, you leave us thinking you're guilty. We lynch you. You turn up innocent. That doesn't prove Jowy wrong, just means he was the opposite of you. You actually make it easier for him.
If instead you claim, and he says you lie, one of you will die at some point yes, and if you are innocent , and you die, then Jowy is confirmed mafia sk.
Those are the only two scenarios. Period. If you don't claim, you swing. Period. Azarius not showing wouldn't trump that. Nothing trumps that. Your stubornness in the face of everything only shows scum doing everything they can do to not get outed. If you are scum, cool, you die tonight. If you aren't play ball, don't fuck your buddies, and lets actually accomplish something.
For god's sake, wake the fuck up.
Why do you want to embark on this risky process today and leave a serial killer free? You would rather risk a mislynch and three deaths tonight than a guaranteed successful lynch and a maximum of two kills tonight?
How is there even a debate between risking 4 innocent lives over the guarantee of a maximum of two?
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
February 4th, 2015, 16:54
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So we default to:
(February 4th, 2015, 16:38)Jabbz Wrote: Your stubornness in the face of everything only shows scum doing everything they can do to not get outed. I
February 4th, 2015, 16:56
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I'd rather kill someone that is either Mafia or a hidden SK, than someone who is an open SK. I guess we just weigh things differently. You are being an ass in addition to that, which makes you look even more guilty. You aren't engaging with anything, you are throwing out insults, implying you're the only one who doesn't need to "wake the fuck up." If you aren't guilty, I think I'll still almost be happy to see you go, because you're not contributing anything at this point.
February 4th, 2015, 16:57
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Oh fuck off.
I don't claim - I'm stubborn, therefore I'm scum and hang.
I claim - Someone inevitably counters it with an untestable lie, therefore I'm scum and hang.
I notice you didn't answer my question:
How is there even a debate between risking 4 innocent lives over the guarantee of a maximum of two?
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
February 4th, 2015, 16:59
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Okay TT is not claiming, that's too bad. Let's move on before feelings get hurt.
I'm the Tracker. I tracked Rowain to Meiz N1, and Rowain called Meiz town the next day, so Meiz is confirmed by Rowain copping him as town.
I tracked Azarius to Rowain N2. I was already sure of it by play that Azarius killed him, but after Jabbz claimed Doctor, there was no longer any town role that Azarius could have had to visit Rowain, so Azarius is confirmed scum. Well, there is one role, which is the Watcher. I'll get to that next.
I'm operating under the assumption that TT is indeed the town Watcher, albeit a very stubborn one. We should lynch Ichabod today (sorry bud!). There should only be one night kill the next night and also every night following that. We should lynch Azarius the next day. If he does flip town Watcher, which I would be very surprised about, then TT is scum. But Azarius will probably flip as Mafia Strongman.
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February 4th, 2015, 17:02
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And also,
I tried contributing, but Q is bulletproof in everyone else's eyes apparently, for no logic or reason and I honestly don't have much of a clue where the others are right now.
I've spent pretty much all of today under pressure and attack for reasons that defy all logic in my mind. So forgive me if I'm more than a bit pissy. I'm just sick of arguing the same points over and over and having noone consider them
"You want to take my city of Troll%ng? Go ahead and try."
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