WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[zakalwe]

Anyway, it seems Jowy has decided to make this easier on you (unless you want to counterclaim). Regardless, I still have questions:

• Who did you target Night 1, and why? Were there any results?
  
• Why did you target AdrienIer (unless Ichabod is lying)?

TT, can you answer these questions now?

[Twinkletoes89]

Ichabod, I don't follow your reasoning.

Even if we did lynch Azarius, there's still the possibility of a mafia role-blocker being out there (claimed by Q) or that he's a Serial Killer.

If he's a second SK (and that is possible), then there's still the strongman and roleblocker out there, plus you.

I know you are doing everything to survive, but I think your argument falls short (at least from my first understanding of what you are trying to say)

[zakalwe]

@Ichabod:

Why is there no scum-roleblocker still around? Did I miss you posting about it [if so, sorry]?

Anyway, got to go. Say more in 7-8 hours.

If Azarius is dead, roleblocker has to choose between using his power or killing. That's why there's no roleblocker.

I don't think it works that way in this game.

[Twinkletoes89]

I will answer those questions:

1) I watched you (Qgqqqq) on Night One. I imagined that the Mafia would anticipate Matt being protected by a doctor and would target you as the 'other cop' to ensure a kill. Alas, nothing happened because they had a strongman.

2) I chose AdrienIer as all the major lynch suspects (me and bob) were getting heat so it seemed likely that they would survive. Rowain and Glum's dance had made them suspicious so they were probably safe too. Two deaths on night one could only have been an SK. Vigs never take those risks. So I decided that it's better to hunt for the quiet one who can't be killed at night.

So I envisaged that at least one of the quiet people would get targeted, as an SK would imagine that all the tracker/watcher heat would be on those under suspicion and would want to whittle down the numbers as safely as possible.

Azarius was too quiet and thus lynchable, so it wouldn't be him.
So it was a toss up between a few and so I went for AdrienIer and hoped to get lucky.

[zakalwe]

So you didn't see Jabbz visiting Q on N1?

[Ichabod]

Ichabod, I don't follow your reasoning.

Even if we did lynch Azarius, there's still the possibility of a mafia role-blocker being out there (claimed by Q) or that he's a Serial Killer.

If he's a second SK (and that is possible), then there's still the strongman and roleblocker out there, plus you.

I know you are doing everything to survive, but I think your argument falls short (at least from my first understanding of what you are trying to say)

Well, my understanding of the rules is that a Mafia can't use both his kill and his power on the same night.

So, if we are talking about a 4 mafia setup (which I find likely), killing mafia Azarius makes a roleblock impossible. The presence of a second SK is irrelevant to this calculation, from what I can see.

But you have a point, there's no reason to trust Qgqq right now. My plan could work really well if he was confirmed, but I don't feel like he is. Anyway, I think you get way more value from your role and Jowy's role if Azarius is dead, because he'll be the sacrificial lamb tonight for the Mafia.

Anyway, it's all about trusting me in this one, I'd say. What I can say is that I won't kill, because there's no reason for me to do it. It doesn't matter for me if I die in day 3 or 4, I'm not doing this out of pride, but I'd be happy if I could at least survive the Mafia (perhaps the other SK too, if there's one). But I understand if you think you can't, it's part of the game.

On a final note, I can work as a vig, if you want. Make a second vote during the night and I shoot who you want. probably not worth it with Azarius dead, but at least there's the option. I haven't counted it, but perhaps it doesn't matter for lylo (probably impossible to figure out, since there's always the possibility of a second SK).

[Ichabod]

So you didn't see Jabbz visiting Q on N1?

Jabbz visited Matt, didn't he?

[Twinkletoes89]

So you didn't see Jabbz visiting Q on N1?

Jabbz protected Mattimeo, not Q. That's how we know there is a strongman

[zakalwe]

Ah ok. So nobody visited Q then?

[Ichabod]

That menas Qg is lying about being roleblocked. Qg is a liar!!! LYNCH HIM!!!