WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[Jabbz]

What? It doesn't matter because I was 95% certain it was going to be blocked. I submitted it because it was the right play, but I didn't expect a result.

Legit enough reason if that's why. I can buy that for now.

As for not going after me...your "last post" was to hit on me, and you've been passive-aggressively hounding me for the past few IRL games. So yeah, I've been feeling a bit got-at.

I think you have me mistaken for someone else there Qg. A: I do my best to be more direct rather than passive aggressive. B: I've only played three games and you flatter yourself if you think you're that special :P

I went back and looked at WW 34. I never mentioned you before you died, and I stopped looking after you died. Pretty sure I didn't mention you once, much less hound you. I went and look at WW33 as well, the only other game I played. I did go after you a bit day one. Not overly hard. I was trying to figure out the game, so if you took that seriously, somethings very wrong. I dug a little more, and even found where I freaking DEFENDED you.

Qgqqqqq, I find it weird that you'd say "GG all". It's something you say when the game (or your part in it) is over. You could just be misunderstanding it, or it could be a slip from scum trying to convey his insincere regrets at townies dying.

I think the Rowain / Azarius spat is a dead end. I understand Rowain's questioning, but I don't think Azarius being stubborn about it is a scum tell. His reaction looks a lot like his play from last game. Don't have a read on Jabbz.

Given that Brick said GG on his way out, I'm not sure GG is something to latch onto. Even though Qg opened with an early accusation, it's kind of the same behavior he exhibited D1, and unless someone sees a pattern in our deaths, I don't think we have much more information this morning than we did last. I'm just going to wait for more responses before I jump on anyone I think.

But hey, I suppose that could be me very sneakily passive aggressively attacking you. I'm just that awesome.

But that isn't a particularly defensive post, anyway - why would it matter who I claim to have scanned, if I was scum? Why would I, as scum, need to or want to delay my claimed scan?

To me this just looks like you taking another chance to shovel dirt at me without any real cause.

I poked you, to see what kind of response I got. What I got was a hyper defensive claim, filled with false arguments, and some really serious insecurity issues. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who sees something weird in that.

[Qgqqqqq]

It doesn't matter? You have everyone pegged huh? Nice of you to join TT in the defensive posting club. Hell I wasn't even really going after you, just dropped a comment, and you turned into a turtle. Why is that?

What? It doesn't matter because I was 95% certain it was going to be blocked. I submitted it because it was the right play, but I didn't expect a result.

As for not going after me...your "last post" was to hit on me, and you've been passive-aggressively hounding me for the past few IRL [strikethrough]games[/strikethrough] days. So yeah, I've been feeling a bit got-at. But that isn't a particularly defensive post, anyway - why would it matter who I claim to have scanned, if I was scum? Why would I, as scum, need to or want to delay my claimed scan?

Typo, sorry.

[Jabbz]

So Jabbz, why do you have Q + Molach as scum and then soon after vote TT as the obvious scum?
What about your case on Zak being scum?

Sadly Meiz, my COT is insanely small. I'm in there.

Uhm.

Uh.

You're there thanks to the Rowain <-Jowy link.

That means right now I see scum pretty much everywhere. The difference between TT, and Q and Molach, is that I have a pretty strong case on TT going back two days, filled with horrible voting patterns and the most defensive case of "im not the badguy, why are you calling me the badguy, ignore the badguy badge I'm wearing, it's not what you think it is" I've ever seen in a game. Qg is starting down that path as well, but my case against him is based on reads and supposition, with nothing concrete. Molach is just a feel, I don't even have solid reads on him.

I think TT is a very clear and easy to kill scum target for tonight. With the other SK down, I'm assuming we have the numbers on them. At most I see them have 3 more mafia, which leaves 5 more town. As long as we don't mys-lynch too many times, we are ok.

So we lynch the obvious target tonight. That gives us a little more information, scum will get another after that, then we work our way down the next target. Unless Qg is really a cop, I'm thinking I'm the next mafia target as I'm being too damn active, but hey, someone has to keep this conversation going.

[Jabbz]

I pretty much had your back all day 2 Qg. I decided my read on you day 1 was off, so I put you in COT, and you stayed there until a bit into day 3. I think you are grossly overstating what happens, because you have backed yourself into a corner, and I'm calling you on it.

It's ok though. I'm not going after you at all today, other than to call suspicious shit where I see it. I'm all TT all day for today. Tonight. Well, we will see. I think that if you are really a cop, one of us has a good chance of being killed tonight. Me for being the most active scumhunter, or you for being a cop. Of course, you could be the role blocker, who knows. Sadly we still don't know who the rest of the team claims to be or is. I guess time will tell.

To throw it out there, I hope I'm wrong about you. I figure its 5/3 right now. If you really are the cop, then that ties down the RB every day until they kill you. He's not doing something nasty to someone else. It also reduces the chance they have a 1s day vig, which could be brutal if they utilized it at the right time to turn a balanced vote into an easy win for them, and then finish the game the following night. So yeah, totes ok with you being cop. I just don't buy it.

[Qgqqqqq]

I poked you, to see what kind of response I got. What I got was a hyper defensive claim, filled with false arguments, and some really serious insecurity issues. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who sees something weird in that.

What?

Again, say where I'm "hyper-defensive"? Let alone "have security issue", or "false arguments"?

This is what you posted:

It doesn't matter? You have everyone pegged huh? Nice of you to join TT in the defensive posting club. Hell I wasn't even really going after you, just dropped a comment, and you turned into a turtle. Why is that?

I'm not seeing where you point out anything save my defensiveness - if there are false arguments, why not point them out?


I also don't get why you're voting TT if you think I'm scum? Clearly one of the two of us is scum - and your statement earlier about his town-death makes it clear you agree with that - so why are you on him rather than me? You certainly seem to be interpreting everything I say as scummily as you can.

[Qgqqqqq]

Could you explain you case on me, then?

The above was a x-post, btw, which should be obvious.

[Molach]

I scanned Zak, got a no result.

Molach approves of this choice.

Even though it didn't matter.

(Assuming Q truthful and there are 2 mafia left):
I don't think TT's role is revealed, if he's the strongman & lynched then the roleblocker can just block the doc while killing Q. Or Kill the doc and block Q.

Earlier mafia could just do 1 thing, but last 15 games or so I think "factional kill" is performed as a bonus to using a Power-role like ability.

[Jabbz]

I'll be happy to when I get the chance tomorrow Qg. It's late and it's be a damn long day for me. I will briefly state that the "false arguments" were the regarding the mistype of games/days, so no worries there. I thought that an odd argument to make, and you typing in a hurry explains it. Briefly, yes I think you and TT are both scum. If I remember the argument you reference, yes I don't believe you can both be, or I did then, and I'm sure when I read the argument again to refresh my memory I'll probably believe it again.

As I stated above, I think everyone but Meiz looks scummy right now. However, I know that I suffer from tunnel vision, and my judgement has the potential to be as flawed as anyone else's. I think the case against TT is stronger than my case against you, so I go with it.

[Meiz]

That means right now I see scum pretty much everywhere. The difference between TT, and Q and Molach, is that I have a pretty strong case on TT going back two days, filled with horrible voting patterns and the most defensive case of "im not the badguy, why are you calling me the badguy, ignore the badguy badge I'm wearing, it's not what you think it is" I've ever seen in a game. Qg is starting down that path as well, but my case against him is based on reads and supposition, with nothing concrete. Molach is just a feel, I don't even have solid reads on him.

At this point of the game, you should have some sort of read of everyone. So why is Moalch scum with Q ?
What was the scum read on Zak you had ?

[Jabbz]

I really need sleep before I start down that rabbit hole Meiz. I have some shit I have to go to for my kids tomorrow, but IIRC its less than halfway through day 3, so I should have ample time to come back and address it. Short version, Molach has just seemed scummy to me through things he has said over the last two days. I don't have anything I could make a direct claim with, but it feels off. With that I'm going to bed before my tired brain makes me say things that make less sense than usual.