WW35: Not Another TPS Report [Game Thread]

[Fenn]

Q also says Fenn looks bad and I look good because Fenn names me as the next lynch after him. But I'm only next if Q flips as scum. So maybe a bit of a slip, there?

I guess Fenn and Q could both be mafia, together.

Unlikely. If Q and me were a team then tomorrow is Mylo (4 town vs 2 scum). Bussing your scum teammate at that point is ridiculous when you have the opportunity to win the game right there. Besides which I doubt that we rolled a 5-1-1 vs 12 scenario, that's seriously imbalanced against town even with multiple cop roles. The reason why his read on you has eroded is probably to give him a reason to push for your mislynch tomorrow, if he's the last scum. You are only a suspect to me in the event that two scum are left.

If Q flips as town then I clearly have no clue what's what, there's no way he isn't scum.

TT's "what a messy day" post on day 1 still makes little sense to me if both Q and Jabbz are town. *Could* just be scum trying to make town noises, I guess, but it's a post that seems like it ought to have some kind of purpose.

One more point in Q's favor, though: if he's mafia, why did he make his cop claim on day 1? He could have hung in there and made it on day 2, instead. Or even just very late on day 1, if he couldn't get himself off the block. He had to figure that counterclaims were very likely once *two* fake cop claims had been made. Why not save the gambit for day 2 and just keep pushing Jabbz for a presumed mislynch?

I think that's exactly why he claimed early, to make his claim look towny. Lots of people were agreed after Q's claim that scum wouldn't make such a risky claim and doom novice, it gave Q great credibility. Pushing a mislynch of Jabbz would have accomplished nothing - it would make him and novice clear lynch targets for day 2 and 3. Better to try something that stood a good chance of securing long-term safety.

[zakalwe]

Meiz, before you die. Still feel good about Jabbz?

[Jabbz]

Oh forgot one thing.

It's odd how Q said that him revealing zak scan didn't matter. Because that actually revealed that roleblocker actually exists. Other nights could have been Bob's doing. So perhaps Q forgot the tiny detail of his story for a moment there smile

Sure, they could've been Bob. But if they were, scum would've tried to kill me earlier (night 2) - that they didn't made the existence of a roleblocker pretty clear to me.

Here's the quote, "I didn't post it precisely because it doesn't really matter. I barely bothered to submit it, anyway."

Sure, you can claim it was likely roleblocker exists. But I think that's quite odd mindset to have without having any proof of it.

Yeah, I didn't like this much either. I'm 100% positive tonight and last night that mafia have a strongarm. I still put a lot of thought each night into whom I'm going to protect, and put in my submission. Yes I know it's meaningless, doesn't mean I shouldn't try :/

[Meiz]

Oh fuck, completely forgot I'm about to die.

I had a little moment on Jabbz's mudslinging without backing the accusations concretely (which prompted my questioning on him). He should still explain what he was thinking there. I'm not sure if that's town paranoia though. I do get a towny feeling from most of his posts, so I think Q is mafia over him.

For an odd reason, I kind of like Fenn doing the push on Q before the next day started. Molach & Jkaen are scum based on activity levels, but there's a lot of stuff in their posts that make me doubt it. As you said, needs a little stretching to make it work. But of course the same stretching goes for everyone it seems . I wish Jkaen would show a little more urgency on finding the scum though.

I'm being completely useless here

My dying words... Zakalwe should be considered as confirmed towAAAARRGHHHHHHHHHHHH

[BRickAstley]

Deadline

[BRickAstley]

Meiz was killed. He was a townie.

1-Shot Town Governor
You are a 1-Shot Town Governor.
Abilities
During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want lynched.
Governor: During the Day, you may post 'Govern NAME' in bold. That player will be unable to be lynched that day.
1-Shot: This ability can only be used once during the game.
Win Condition
You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Start of Day 5.

Sorry I haven't had writeups, I'll be going back and filling some in for the previous days when I get time. I caught a cold the day the game started and still have it, so I haven't been feeling well enough to spend a lot of time on that, and you all know I'm not the most evocative writer anyways.

[Jabbz]

Well, sadly that was to be expected. GG Meiz. At least I'm 3/4 for protecting people who died. least effective doc ever :/ I was kind of hoping I would die, would give my arguments 100% towncred, and I could stop having to work so hard to keep the conversation moving in a solid direction.

Before I make any arguments about who needs to die, I have to reread everything, or nearly everything. All of my solid cases have played out, so now it's time to move to some of the less tangible ones. I'll hopefully be able to put something out tonight.

I want to reiterate that I won't be responding to sniping. If you want to present a full case against me, I'll be happy to respond to that, but this constant "you said this one thing on day x that I don't like" only bogs me down when I don't have as much time for this as I'd like anyway. Happy hunting.

[Jkaen]

Ok, so no real surprise on the scum kill there.

Normally i would be suspicious of zak making it this far unmolested by scum, but i guess they have been power role focused all game and hence cant focus on the players and their game.

That obviously leads us on to Q still being alive, which essentially comes down to is there a scum roleblocker or not.

Looking at discards and claims we have:

Qgqqqqq - Roleblocker / cop
Jabbz - Mafia Goon / doctor
Zakalwe - Tourist / nothing
Molach - Vanilla Townie / nothing
Jkaen - Vanilla Townie / nothing
Fenn - Vanilla Townie / nothing

that gives us nothing. role reading we have a cop who has succeeded in nothing all game, and a doctor who has achieved nothing also.

Obviously a strongman covers why jabbz would have done nothing.

Meiz pointed at me and Molach being dodgy based upon activity levels, but looking at post counts we have:

Q: 134
Jabbz: 129
Zak: 203
Molach: 65
Jkaen: 96
Fenn: 79

I find it interesting that Fenn, wasn't mentioned in the low contribution comment. As mentioned before he seems to be skating through quite a bit. I commented on his dodgy reaction yesterday, I incorrectly atrributed this to being a SK, but I am wondering now if he wanted a SK to stay around a bit longer to keep the kill rate up to kill scum.

I do acknowledge the posts against Q made 'last night' however i find it suspicious that previously most people were saying its TT or Q as scum, and how quickly it swung around to TT and Q

Will try to play with Novice's tool again and do a review of people (yes i know last time I did this i didn't finish on TT, but limited playtime there is so much i can do) but right now I still find Fenn dodgy

[Jkaen]

I'm not going to defend myself against comments pulled from day 2, day 1 etc,

I want to reiterate that I won't be responding to sniping. If you want to present a full case against me, I'll be happy to respond to that, but this constant "you said this one thing on day x that I don't like" only bogs me down when I don't have as much time for this as I'd like anyway. Happy hunting.

See I still find this hugely suspicious. What exactly are you willing to defend against?

Not responding to any random accusations seems very odd to me. Am I allowed to say I will only comment to people who are supporting me being obvious town?

[Jabbz]

I'm saying I won't defend against piecemeal shit. If you want to make a legitimate "I think jabbz is scum because" then cool. Otherwise, I'm tired of defending myself against "why did you say this one thing this one way this one day" Its only purpose is to slow me down.