February 18th, 2015, 09:21
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(February 18th, 2015, 09:00)Rowain Wrote: @zakalwe While I do agree about the lurker-lynch I don't share your optimism concerning BRick.
I guess I'm more worried about jumping the gun and mislynching him than I am about letting him slip away as scum. If he is scum, he is off to a pretty bad start. But if he's town, he might find it hard to get that across if we just keep him on the defensive. But I don't mean to be a killjoy or anything.  If you really think he is scum you should obviously keep at it.
If you know what I mean.
February 18th, 2015, 09:23
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(February 18th, 2015, 09:20)sunrise089 Wrote: (February 18th, 2015, 03:23)Mattimeo Wrote: (February 17th, 2015, 21:51)dtay Wrote: "unfair to the people who are known for being good wolf players" is irrelevant. Why would we care if a strategy is fair? Why not read the spoiler thread, then?
Also, if you want to play more games, having a policy of "always vote for the best wolf players," also known as "always vote for the same people," is not likely to encourage them to play more games with you.
dtay
Mattimeo's post above seems to deliberately misunderstand/misstate an argument more than any other so far, and so earns my vote. I don't find it believable that dtay's argument could honestly be read as ""always vote for the same people." IMHO he's pretty clearly arguing that Day 1 votes are pretty meaningless (a position I'm favorably inclined towards) and that ignoring Day 1 entirely while lynching non-randomly is a superior play. There was already a rebuttal with "no, it's more useful to prod people Day 1...the info gleamed is actually useful" so I don't know why Matt decided to go so far down the rabbit hole and end up threatening dtay with not being able to play in future games 
Come on now I don't think he's threatening him. That's a pretty hot take Sunrise...
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February 18th, 2015, 09:25
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This is the curse of day 1. Every time someone agrees with you, you instantly start questioning their motives.
If you know what I mean.
February 18th, 2015, 09:31
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(February 18th, 2015, 09:23)Lewwyn Wrote: Come on now I don't think he's threatening him. That's a pretty hot take Sunrise...
Matt Wrote:is not likely to encourage them to play more games with you
I'm not saying it's going to make dtay quiver in fear, but I think it's the only 'could have out-of-game consequences' claim made so far, and again it's based on a misreading of dtay's argument, which is suspicious to me.
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Novice, could you explain your Q vote in more detail than one short sentence? The other two votes on him are a joke vote and a counter-vote, so despite him being a leading vote recipient, your vote is the first one based on an actual case.
February 18th, 2015, 09:31
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(February 18th, 2015, 09:25)zakalwe Wrote: This is the curse of day 1. Every time someone agrees with you, you instantly start questioning their motives.
I totally agree.
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February 18th, 2015, 09:35
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*BA DUM TSSS*
I'm off. Hasta la vista, meatbags!
If you know what I mean.
February 18th, 2015, 09:53
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(February 18th, 2015, 09:31)sunrise089 Wrote: Novice, could you explain your Q vote in more detail than one short sentence? The other two votes on him are a joke vote and a counter-vote, so despite him being a leading vote recipient, your vote is the first one based on an actual case.
Basically this
(February 18th, 2015, 01:42)AdrienIer Wrote: claiming to not be commited yet posting a lot.
And this
(February 18th, 2015, 03:24)dtay Wrote: (February 18th, 2015, 03:13)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Huh, I must've missed this on the way through. If you rerolled anyway, why post it? It only seems to distract from the issue. And if you were going to post it, why reroll? Especially seeing as sticking with your self-vote would also have pushed through the joke vote phase you were so eager to push past.
This all seems a bit weird, IMO.
Idk, because he thought it was funny and didn't want to actually vote for himself? All 3 options (unmentioned reroll, stick to self vote, reroll but mention) seem to make plausible sense to me, reading anything out of it feels so forced.
AdrienIer's behaviour seems weird? It's a forced case and Q doesn't even dare call it scummy.
Unrelated:
(February 18th, 2015, 06:26)AdrienIer Wrote: Never rolled scum yet, but when I'll eventually do my first wolf game my first post in the wolf thread will be to ask for advice, in order to stay low and not to attract attention FOS for "what I would do as scum" post.
I have to run.
February 18th, 2015, 09:58
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Qg voted for AdrienIer to get a second wagon rolling
(February 17th, 2015, 22:30)Qgqqqqq Wrote: (February 17th, 2015, 21:55)BRickAstley Wrote: Sooooooo if you're really seriously voting for AdrienIer for his joke post just because he used a website for his random vote rather than how his stomach felt at the moment, you're pretty silly dilly I gotta say.
I'm voting him because a 3v3 Gazglum/Adrien setup is much more interesting than a 4v2 of the same.
February 18th, 2015, 10:06
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Ah, OK. Well, I still don't like his "This all seems a bit weird" post.
I have to run.
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(February 18th, 2015, 07:46)novice Wrote: Brick what's wrong with being nightkilled by day 2?
(February 18th, 2015, 07:53)zakalwe Wrote: (February 18th, 2015, 07:44)BRickAstley Wrote: (February 18th, 2015, 03:24)dtay Wrote: I guess that's the point, force stuff, but I just have trouble with the doublethink required: "I'm doing things that don't make sense, but I need to act like they make sense so I can do things that make sense later, all while simultaneously attacking other people for not making sense despite them being aware of this same logic"
Aaaaaaaaand this is why I don't enjoy information-less Day 1s. 
So you agree with dtay, or what? You're still voting for him, but I don't see anything scummy about his play so far.
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