There's stuff to respond to, but I'll try to get to that post-lynch, as I'm not a candidate.
I really don't like the Matt push. Sure, scum can get by by lurking easy enough, but none of his has struck me as unusual and scummy. I thought we'd long since realized that policy lynchs don't work, either - Matt's not going to change off this, and IMO he's not particularly likely go be scum. Besides which, whilst he's always a lurker, he definitely does post more on later days/when there's more info around.
I don't like the way his wagon got thrown together. Particularly Zak's vote, there, as it struck me as quite out of kilter to his attitudes in the past.
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(February 17th, 2015, 21:11)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Let's get another wagon rolling. AdreinIer
(February 17th, 2015, 22:30)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
(February 17th, 2015, 21:55)BRickAstley Wrote: Sooooooo if you're really seriously voting for AdrienIer for his joke post just because he used a website for his random vote rather than how his stomach felt at the moment, you're pretty silly dilly I gotta say.
I'm voting him because a 3v3 Gazglum/Adrien setup is much more interesting than a 4v2 of the same.
(February 18th, 2015, 02:31)Qgqqqqq Wrote: You had two votes. Gazglum had 3. I voted for you, pushing it up to 3v3, which I think will give better tells from players.
Believe whatever you want to believe. I don't care if you want to doubt what I say about my RL or not.
Curiously, I believe that pushes me up to 3 votes...
(February 18th, 2015, 16:50)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
Quote:Not that Q isn't suspicious (as far as you can be suspicious on D1) but I need to move to an actual vote now.
Why is your vote on me not an actual one if I am "as suspicious as you can be on day 1"? Why do you feel the need to move if that is the case? And why are you detracting from your own vote whilst still keeping suspicions open?
Especially seeing as you openly cast your earlier vote on me as revenge, here.
(February 18th, 2015, 17:03)Qgqqqqq Wrote:
(February 18th, 2015, 07:42)BRickAstley Wrote:
(February 18th, 2015, 02:31)Qgqqqqq Wrote: You had two votes. Gazglum had 3. I voted for you, pushing it up to 3v3, which I think will give better tells from players.
Why do you think that evening up the vote count with over half of day 1 left will get better tells? Other than getting lucky with a wolf flipping out ridiculously early, I don't see how that's going to help.
Why do you think it wouldn't? Like honestly, I'm struggling to understand your reasoning here - why would two separate wagons at 3 votes apiece not generate more tells and information on players than one at 4? I'm not saying some wolf is going to be super obvious about it all - but still, there's all kinds of reaction tells that could be pulled from that scenario, especially later on in the game, once we've landed a wolf.
It's no silver bullet, but still it's a situation that, IMO, is worth creating.
(February 18th, 2015, 09:53)novice Wrote:
(February 18th, 2015, 09:31)sunrise089 Wrote: Novice, could you explain your Q vote in more detail than one short sentence? The other two votes on him are a joke vote and a counter-vote, so despite him being a leading vote recipient, your vote is the first one based on an actual case.
Basically this
(February 18th, 2015, 01:42)AdrienIer Wrote: claiming to not be commited yet posting a lot.
And this
(February 18th, 2015, 03:24)dtay Wrote:
(February 18th, 2015, 03:13)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Huh, I must've missed this on the way through. If you rerolled anyway, why post it? It only seems to distract from the issue. And if you were going to post it, why reroll? Especially seeing as sticking with your self-vote would also have pushed through the joke vote phase you were so eager to push past.
This all seems a bit weird, IMO.
Idk, because he thought it was funny and didn't want to actually vote for himself? All 3 options (unmentioned reroll, stick to self vote, reroll but mention) seem to make plausible sense to me, reading anything out of it feels so forced.
AdrienIer's behaviour seems weird? It's a forced case and Q doesn't even dare call it scummy.
You think that, what? 3 posts is large activity? Whatever. Personally I think that lying about RL or out of game events in werewolf is always a step too far, and it's one I have no intention of ever crossing. Remind me after the game and I'll affirm this for you.
Eh, his behaviour was weird. That doesn't make it inherently scummy, which is why I didn't call it that. I don't see how that case is forced, either.
Love the graphic, novice
1) Vote AdrienIer!
2) "I voted for him to even votes out at 3v3 (under 12 hours in)
3) Explained his vote again.
~~~hours~~~
4) Onto Adrien for not voting for Q anymore?
5) Telling why creating a 3v3 under 12 hours in is really good play. Who mentions 3 posts? Yes lying about IRL is bad.
YOu can't tell me that that play there doesn't feel pretty weird.
(February 19th, 2015, 14:25)BRickAstley Wrote: How is that first post bad? I would agree with him that Dtay's suggestion isn't a good one.
For someone who is bored by day 1 it is using strong words. And not agreeing with dtay's suggestion is ok. but wanting dtay getting lynched for it?
Bored by day one doesn't keep you from attacking something that seems like a deadly meta idea. That is something objective that can be talked about, unlike pretty much everything else at that point.
(February 19th, 2015, 14:44)Doctor Saul Wrote: How about instead of just agreeing with me that zak is scummy we vote for him as well?
As for the others...AdrienIer has felt pretty scummy, doing a bunch of things that work with newb scum, and which felt different from his play in the past.
Saul is a wagon I don't really feel any connection to. Arguments against him seem okay in theory, but I just haven't seen that out of him.
Zakalwe I'd be prepared to lynch.
Fenn I don't even recall what the argument against him was based on.
Sunrise I recall finding vaguely scummy.
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Me thinks we had the discussion before. Your not posting gives the village no chance to judge you making any endgame including you extremely hard for the villagers present. If you are scum go on with your lurking but if you are town please try to give reads and opinions so we can get a read on you.
Else it is better to lynch you now and let players who actually allow us to get a read on them live on. Increases village-chances to find scum.
We have; it generally comes down to I do actually start playing once there's shit to go off, and 90% of the actual ability to judge people from d1 is based on where their vote ended up rather than the ~24 hours of joke posts, or the late run on someone who's sleeping.
(February 19th, 2015, 07:17)Gazglum Wrote: Mattimeo, it seems to me like you over-reacted to Dtay's post, (deliberately misconstrued I could say, if I was feeling cruel), then started lurking.
Sunrise over-reacted to your post (deliberately misconstrued?), then started lurking.
If you are town, don't you think he deserves the benefit of the doubt? Why does this make Sunrise the scummiest of 14 options?
sure; don't I in a similar situation, then?
regardless, zakalwe seems like my best chance of not dying right now.
-- Don’t forget.
Always, somewhere,
someone is fighting for you.
-- As long as you remember her,
you are not alone.
(February 18th, 2015, 06:26)AdrienIer Wrote: Never rolled scum yet, but when I'll eventually do my first wolf game my first post in the wolf thread will be to ask for advice, in order to stay low and not to attract attention
FOS for "what I would do as scum" post.
Brick this is the other reason I'm voting A.
I don't see why I shouldn't stick with it ar this point.
