Joke vote on Qqqqqq
ALSO doesn’t like Adrien’s random vote. I do not like people not liking Adrien’s random vote, it’s silly, but then walks it back with his next post a while later, so w/e it’s fine. Not going to try to read too deeply into this.
Don't think Adrien is all that suspicious for the self vote but it did need to be pointed out. Happy with his response, we should cut people some slack for trying to have fun and make jokes in the game.
Mattimeo's post on dtay (his only post, even) is a bit of a forced case. I have to agree with sunrise and Rowain, dtay's plan is something I'd object to on metagame grounds, not "this is scummy".
Fenn Wrote:I could go for Doctor Saulus; he's been quite reticent for a supposedly esteemed physician. After losing the last game I see the value in making lurkers talk, every town player should be contributing reads and such if they have the time.
Doesn’t like Matt’s case on me, which is I suppose a minor good thing.
Vote on Saul for lurking.
Reasonable post.
Fenn Wrote:It's mostly the former. The Adrien vote was there to get a reaction, because it's early Day 1 and we don't have any great cases (well maybe Brick and Mattimeo are suspicious now). Anyway now there's better cases to pursue and we got an explanation out of AdrienIer so there's no point in keeping the vote on him for that little reason anymore.
This is a good post in and of itself, putting Matt as one of his 2 most suspicious people. It becomes suspicious in light of future behavior however.
This is where it gets weird. He’s said Matt is suspicious, his vote on Saul was initially for lurking, but now despite Matt still lurking he keeps his vote on Saul because he thinks Saul was getting too defense.
Fenn Wrote:Most of my afternoon was taken up by a hike and cooking some chicken paella, checking in before I go to bed. Agreed with Lewwyn that Mattimeo is suspicious, his lurking is reminiscent of his mafia play in WW34. Going to keep my vote on Dr Saul though; the dtay mixup wasn't a big deal imo, but his reaction to the wagon on him struck me as defensive, and not in a good way. At any rate he seems like the least unreasonable lynch today other than Mattimeo for lurking.
I’ve already expounded at length of my opinion of the logic of the Saul wagon. And this post will seem even weirder in a bit where he’s established the order “Saul then Matt” for lynching, but then is about the agree to switch to the entirely unmentioned to this point Zak.
Post 254 he votes for Matt when it looks inevitable that Matt will be lynched and not saul. (vote count 7-2 after his switch)
Post about dislike of Qqqqq’s behavior which I’m fine with, I also didn’t like Qqqqq’s behavior.
His logic for voting for zak is:
Fenn Wrote:Eh sure, I'll put a vote on zakalwe for what it's worth. Don't really buy his explanation for voting me, which vote he still hasn't moved.
Really? A revenge vote at this stage when you’re not up for lynch? When you’re jumping on a “save someone” wagon, saving someone you already hinted was scummy. This doesn’t make sense to me.
Lists the range of possible explanations for the zak wagon during n1, not really committing to an interpretation. Mildly scummy, not a huge deal.
Votes for Qqqqq today. Reasonable from both town and scum perspectives. Defense against himself dying and easily lynchable town if Fenn is the scum.
Tries to explain vote on Zak, I think it’s bad
Fenn Wrote:I got cold feet. I was never certain about Mattimeo being scum, and when we got close to deadline I felt that he really could be town and we were making a mistake. Then zak voted with for with no explanation and that + a general bad feeling I had had about his style that day was enough to make me jump off of the Matt train. Indeed I'd been after you most of the day, but I wasn't feeling strongly about your scumminess then (and I still don't), so I was willing to vote with you at least temporarily.
He actually had Matt pretty high up on his list of scum suspects, higher than the unmentioned Matt. Sure he wasn’t “certain” but idk how you possibly become certain about someone on day 1. Not a good explanation for me.
So Fenn was acting much more reasonable than Qqqq throughout the day, but what he’d been writing ends up being very inconsistent imo with his switch off the Matt wagon. I don’t want to peg someone too much for possible newb behavior being well, a newb myself, but this seems plausible for a newb wolf to find he’d written himself into a jam and have to awkwardly get out of it to try and save a scum buddy on a wagon that just suddenly appeared maybe plausible.
Note that fenn as well hasn't really added reads or cases of his own on day 2, which becomes increasingly suspicious as time passes (given I hadn't until like 15 minutes ago they have time, but well needs to happen).
I don’t like either Fenn or Qqqqqq. I also don’t think they’re both scum, see previous post. Right now I’d prefer to vote for Fenn, Qqqqq’s behavior can be partially explained by that he said he’s participating less this game, fenn’s cannot.
