WW 36 - Horrors in Kingsport [Game Thread]

[Doctor Saul]

looks like i X-posted with Jabbz.

Jabbz, hope you can get some time to give us your take on the game today.

[Gaspar]

I'm not around much today, but I did skim through the posts. Yes there is more context now with both Zak and Matt dead. Yes I feel like I'm getting information about it.

That being said, no I wont defend myself constantly this game. I wore myself out last game doing 15 freaking days of defending myself. I look scummy every game, deal with it, or don't. I very much mean it when I say I'd rather be lynched early and laugh at you for having tunnel vision, than I would spend another game on the back foot like last time. I gave my explanations for my actions. You can accept it, or not. Your choice.

BBL

Best defense is just playing.

[Lewwyn]

What's the vote count?

[Jabbz]

It's really simple. You guys are still attacking me for the order in which I made my votes yesterday. That has been explained by me at least twice. You guys either A: don't want to listen, or B: don't buy it. Either way, I'm done discussing the issue. Lewwyn I should have more time later today, depending on what the wife wants to do.

[Fenn]

(I mean, does nobody else find Fenn's over-descriptive explanation of his time away in day 1 scummy?)

I do...
I'm not sure what I was going for there in hindsight.

[Commodore]

Tally as of post 505:

3 votes: Qgqqqqq (BRickAstley, novice, AdrienIer)
2 votes: Jabbz (Lewwyn, Fenn)
2 votes: novice (Doctor Saul, Gaspar)
1 votes: Fenn (Qgqqqqq)
1 votes: dtay (Rowain)

Voting history:

Qgqqqqq

Qgqqqqq

Qgqqqqq

Qgqqqqq

Fenn

Fenn

Fenn

Jabbz

dtay

dtay

Lewwyn

Jabbz

novice

novice

[novice]

I think I would like to hear what novice is thinking now. Sunrise, too, especially since he told us last night that the conversation can wait until today.

I think we should lynch Q.

[BRickAstley]

Add to it your "zak has to die" followed by cold-feet-return an d you still look like scum too me.

I never felt at any point that zak has to die. I'm assuming that you're interpreting my vote as that, but you're wrong.

The contractions havent been continuing/intensivfying so i'm still around for now.

Lewwyn, I disagree with you saying jabbz's thought on zak's reads have no meaning, obvciously you cant expect them to be correct, but you can now know they're honest. it's not a smoking finger but it isnt necessarially null wither.

Surprising for how games i usually play in tend to go i don't really see novice as too scummy right now. maybe part of that is colored because i agree with his thoughts on qgqqqqq. maybe that's colored bias though.

Honestly fenn and jabbz have been completely in my blinders this game, i need to read them some more.

ninja edit: lol at novice's post above mine.

[BRickAstley]

Also we only have 9 out of 13 people voting right now?

GOBBluthCmon!.jpg

[novice]

I think dtay is doing excellent analysis both D1 and D2, as well as last game. I like his case on Fenn here.

Rowain's logic regarding implications from a Zak kill is fair enough, but I find it strange that people suspect dtay.

Still, I just can't help but think I've seen this kind of "easy" case before, and one of the reasons I am doubting him [Jabbz] as scum is thinking maybe he's just an aggressive / overly eager new player who just doesn't explain his thought process well. But that is starting to look less true now that he's disappeared. It's seeming more like a demotivated scum that had his buddy lynched day 1 and is now on the block himself.

Jabbz' behaviour is completely in line with last game, where he was town.

I'm not around much today, but I did skim through the posts. Yes there is more context now with both Zak and Matt dead. Yes I feel like I'm getting information about it.

That being said, no I wont defend myself constantly this game. I wore myself out last game doing 15 freaking days of defending myself. I look scummy every game, deal with it, or don't. I very much mean it when I say I'd rather be lynched early and laugh at you for having tunnel vision, than I would spend another game on the back foot like last time. I gave my explanations for my actions. You can accept it, or not. Your choice.

BBL

I'm not asking you to defend yourself. I started with a very specific question. What context has Zak's death given your reads and suspicions? The fact that you fall back on "I'm tired of defending myself" doesn't do anything to move the needle here.

This is very true though. Just answer the frigging question, Jabbz.

Lewwyn's vote on Gaspar was pretty poorly founded. I can understand suspecting him on general principles, but tying a zak kill to Gaspar is pretty silly.

I still think Q is the best lynch. Ultimately, he charged in to defend Mattimeo, without being fully caught up. He had no reason based in reality for pushing Zak. The most likely explanation is that he jumped into action to save a scumbuddy, and chose Zak because he had registered other people suspecting Zak. He fails to get his facts straight about why Zak is suspicious. A town player would have no reason to push Zak like this in similar circumstances. If you're not properly caught up, why would you feel that Mattimeo is worth saving?

Q is a formidable scum player who doesn't hesitate to tackle bad odds. He can talk his way out of anything and he knows it. So he would try to save mattimeo, and hope to talk himself out of trouble if the attempt failed. Don't let him.