February 23rd, 2015, 20:27
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(February 23rd, 2015, 19:22)novice Wrote: From the first post:
Quote:-Roles might be repeated; don't expect you are the only ___ (Role of Roleness).
-Alignment and roles are separated, so scum might have a more village role and vice versa.
I have to run.
February 23rd, 2015, 20:35
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:24)novice Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 19:27)Gaspar Wrote: Just wanted to comment on this - if Qg is scum, which I have always found plausible - I don't see how I get extra scum points for not supporting the lynch. Or at least, compared to anyone else who didn't support the lynch which, as it turns out, was a majority of the village.
Simply put, I expect better from you.
What, how so?
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February 23rd, 2015, 20:37
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What forms of invitation do I have to hand out to hear anything from anyone other than the usual suspects?
@novice - that's probably an unrealistic expectation.
@Brick - you're really lazy
@Lewwyn - Basically my thoughts. You must be scum.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
February 23rd, 2015, 20:42
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:35)Lewwyn Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 20:24)novice Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 19:27)Gaspar Wrote: Just wanted to comment on this - if Qg is scum, which I have always found plausible - I don't see how I get extra scum points for not supporting the lynch. Or at least, compared to anyone else who didn't support the lynch which, as it turns out, was a majority of the village.
Simply put, I expect better from you.
What, how so?
Not to answer for him, but what novice is saying at this point is that he's basically dead certain Qg is scum and if he is scum, players like you and me should have also noted it and voted him off the island. If he rolls scum and we haven't, we're obviously scum ourselves, so obvious was it that Qg is scum.
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, basically. I don't agree, mostly because I think Qg is in a basket with about 4 other equally plausible scum at this point and I think voting any of them is pretty reasonable. Also, I think novice is so bored with the argument that he can't really muster up the strength to argue it anymore, which makes us not really buy it.
Basically, novice is scum and Qg is innocent and novice is lazy this game or novice is town who is 90% certain Qg is scum.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
February 23rd, 2015, 20:43
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:21)novice Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 19:54)Lewwyn Wrote: I was working hard yesterday to create discussion. Any discussion. If you felt SO strongly about Qg, why weren't you pushing? You were obviously not working hard at all. Only after the lynch happens do you jump out of the shadows to point the finger.
That is patently untrue, also already asked and answered.
I just went back and read the second half of the day again. Yes you posted a few times but the majority of the posts are very passive in tone. You answer questions and when someone asks "who would you lynch" you say "I think we should lynch Qg." That's it. That's not a push. And thats what I'm talking about. You weren't actively pushing from what I can see. If you felt like you were being attacked for tunneling, I don't think the response is to say nothing. Instead you sat back and let the village cannibalize.
Tonally passive, but answering questions and posting things like "There's 47 minutes to deadline." To me that's scum novice. You could have said, "47 minutes we need to consolidate on Qg." or anything else in those 47 minutes to try and sway people.
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February 23rd, 2015, 20:47
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:42)Gaspar Wrote: Post hoc ergo propter hoc, basically. I don't agree, mostly because I think Qg is in a basket with about 4 other equally plausible scum at this point and I think voting any of them is pretty reasonable. Also, I think novice is so bored with the argument that he can't really muster up the strength to argue it anymore, which makes us not really buy it.
Yeah that's what I feel too. But its possible he could be bored with the argument as scum or villager. I happen to think its scum because he "got bored" after basically the first half of day 2.
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February 23rd, 2015, 20:48
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:37)Gaspar Wrote: @Lewwyn - Basically my thoughts. You must be scum.
Same to you. I keep fighting the thought that you are scum trodding in my footsteps.
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February 23rd, 2015, 21:14
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:01)Lewwyn Wrote: The main reason I voted Jabbz was because he never answered my initial question from the day. Then I listed later things I didn't like about Jabbz. I think I was fairly justified in my Jabbz vote as he didn't bother to actually answer my question and only cme online to say "[bold]I'm not defending myself![/bold]" multiple times before he actually came on at the end of the day.
That was actually directed and dtay's arguments, not yours. Just an fyi.
February 23rd, 2015, 21:19
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(February 23rd, 2015, 20:37)Gaspar Wrote: What forms of invitation do I have to hand out to hear anything from anyone other than the usual suspects?
@novice - that's probably an unrealistic expectation.
@Brick - you're really lazy
@Lewwyn - Basically my thoughts. You must be scum.
Sorry Gaspar, working on a midterm, for one class, and leading discussion in the other this week. I'll have more time tomorrow hopefully. Doing my best to keep up with the convo, and make comments as I see them, doing deeper analysis is a bit more time consuming.
(February 23rd, 2015, 20:43)Lewwyn Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 20:21)novice Wrote: (February 23rd, 2015, 19:54)Lewwyn Wrote: I was working hard yesterday to create discussion. Any discussion. If you felt SO strongly about Qg, why weren't you pushing? You were obviously not working hard at all. Only after the lynch happens do you jump out of the shadows to point the finger.
That is patently untrue, also already asked and answered.
I just went back and read the second half of the day again. Yes you posted a few times but the majority of the posts are very passive in tone. You answer questions and when someone asks "who would you lynch" you say "I think we should lynch Qg." That's it. That's not a push. And thats what I'm talking about. You weren't actively pushing from what I can see. If you felt like you were being attacked for tunneling, I don't think the response is to say nothing. Instead you sat back and let the village cannibalize.
Tonally passive, but answering questions and posting things like "There's 47 minutes to deadline." To me that's scum novice. You could have said, "47 minutes we need to consolidate on Qg." or anything else in those 47 minutes to try and sway people.
I'll have to go back and look here, but this seems like one scum butting heads with a townie on something, and each grasping for purchase. I'm not sure who is who, but it certainly doesn't seem like both can be honest assertions simultaneously.
February 23rd, 2015, 21:38
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@Q - why are you reluctant to reveal who you visited today when you told everyone you checked me out the first night right away?
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