WW 36 - Horrors in Kingsport [Game Thread]

[Gaspar]

Probably not going to get a chance to respond in depth fir ~16 hours. Sorry, I expected this today but life in the way.

[novice]

BRick was kind enough to make this day a 50/50 for me, but I'm not sure who to vote between BRick and AdrienIer.

I reread BRick, and I'm leaning towards him being a townie with a broken scumdar, like me. This post on day 1 is kind of funny in hindsight:

Unless anyone else wants to consider Gaz, Q, or zak, then I suppose it's time to help do Mattimeo in. Let's really hope he's a wolf though, cause if he's not, then we basically gain zero info to go on.

And he later has cold feet about lynching Matt, but then even colder feet about lynching Zak.

He pursues Q consistently through day 2 and 3, and keeps bringing up points against him, not just leaning on my witch hunt. To me that is a town point actually. Villagers can be hilariously wrong, and scum can claim afterwards to have been one such villager, but it's hard for scum to predict exactly in what way villagers will go wrong in any given scenario. So when BRick makes the same mistakes I make (and I think he made some darn good points on Q being scum ), it makes me think he's town too. (And by the way, BRick, it should make you think I'm town.)

The main scum point against BRick in my eyes is him going "let's lynch Q today and Novice tomorrow if he flips town" at the end of day 3. If he had replied just now that I was obviously scum for driving the Q wagon that would have been extra damning, in light of my reasoning above. But he didn't really do that, he just says he suspected me based on my general scumminess, to paraphrase. Which is fair enough, I suppose.

Heading to dinner, so I'll have to expound more later; it was mainly a combination of the feeling I got from your play being more reminiscent of your wolf play, shorter and less committal, your odd voting habits through the days, and agreeing with the feeling that either you or lewwyn would be likely scum.

Okay, so I'm leaning AdrienIer at the moment, but I haven't reread him. I did have two scumtells on him on day 1, and I think Gazglum made a decent case on him pointing out some bad posts. Other than that I can't really remember what he's posted. I feel like he has had a lot of back and forth on issues I deemed irrelevant... I need to go to bed now though. So provisional vote on AdrienIer.

[AdrienIer]

Novice this is pretty funny really. Unless I'm wrong and it's Brick putting up a complicated scum plot, but I doubt it. As for who would be doing the kill Dtay, why not use those who are in danger already ? Yes they could be targeted by a tracker (or equivalent) but a watcher would find about someone with a good cover. It could make sense to send out someone who might die anyway on the next day, like novice who got quite a few votes yesterday (and would have gotten mine if I had been around at deadline).

[Doctor Saul]

Brick, who's on your town list?

[dtay]

Novice this is pretty funny really. Unless I'm wrong and it's Brick putting up a complicated scum plot, but I doubt it. As for who would be doing the kill Dtay, why not use those who are in danger already ? Yes they could be targeted by a tracker (or equivalent) but a watcher would find about someone with a good cover. It could make sense to send out someone who might die anyway on the next day, like novice who got quite a few votes yesterday (and would have gotten mine if I had been around at deadline).

I should elaborate more. The abilities we've seen thus far haven't been "ID" confirming so to speak. EX: The matt ability didn't say who visited the target or who the target visited, just whether either happened. Or the door knocking ability just said if they'd left, not who they went to. brick's ability is the first we know of that even sort of ID's and it's only 1/3 and is one-shot. So it's likely a pure watcher (or pure tracket) doesn't exist, given the observed power level of roles.

Of the bad-watcher bad-tracker concept (know whether someoen was visited but not by who or know whether someone left but not to where) only the latter could really catch a scum in the act of killing. Watcher would tell you nothing just that the person who died was visited. no duh.

So it seems weird to me the scum team sent out a person likely to attract a tracker-ish role. So that's on my mind as a bit of doubt.

Not at all saying this is a killer conundrum, but at least an oddity. I want to reread Gaspar, adrien, and brick atm. (Would say novice but reread him/lew recently)

[AdrienIer]

Bad watcher could also have bad eyesight (we have the fat man already) and he wouldn't be sure if it was novice me or jabbz he saw killing Gazglum. Also maybe you can't use your power and perform the faction kill on the same night, and team scum would send goon novice to make full use of their other roles. Anyway, lots of possibilities.

[dtay]

Hadn't thought of kill v roles, yeah that's an easy explanation.

[Lewwyn]

Why would novice have been the player out killing? He's been getting heat since day 2 and was actively targeting a player with a scan ability (Qqqqqq).

That confuses me.

Possible that novice has an ability that makes night movements invisible, which wouldn't fool this ability.

[Lewwyn]

Bad watcher could also have bad eyesight (we have the fat man already) and he wouldn't be sure if it was novice me or jabbz he saw killing Gazglum. Also maybe you can't use your power and perform the faction kill on the same night, and team scum would send goon novice to make full use of their other roles. Anyway, lots of possibilities.

Yes this too.

[Lewwyn]

I'm still most sure on Gaspar.

Novice hasn't avoided commenting on Gazglum's post or any of the other accusations towards Gaspar.