WW 36 - Horrors in Kingsport [Game Thread]

[Doctor Saul]

I'd love to see some people tell me what they think on my logic of the possible Brick gambit before I place my vote.

I think it's possible. I think there's also a small chance Brick is scum and trying to get credit now by bussing fellow scum. If we were to lynch novice and he flips town then people need to evaluate both AdrienIer and Brick before deciding.

Thing is, do we have a safer play that also has a high chance of getting scum? I've been trying to find one and I can't find one. If we lynch Gaspar, he flips scum, then we're right back to the novice-brick question tomorrow. If we lynch novice and he's town then we have to get 3 scum in a row.

Since I can't find a safe route, I think you have to just go with who you think is highest odds for flipping scum. Take it one day at a time and make the best read you can for that day. Barring a strong read then you need to vote with the people you think are your strongest village leans, but there's still time to convene on one.

X-post with a couple ppl

[BRickAstley]

I think I'd be okay with going Gaspar -> novie instead of novice -> Gaspar. My only reservation is personally I feel like novice is higher % likely scum, and I am scared of a situation where somehow Gaspar ends up actually being village and then we're at LYLO sooner than would be good.

Though my day has been unexpectedly busy and I haven't gotten to spend as much time on the game as I like, and I'm starting to feel like beause of that maybe I should trust Lewwyn with this read, especially since he knows Gaspar the best of anyone.

[AdrienIer]

Ok. Gaspar then

[Doctor Saul]

If AdrienIer, Novice or Gaspar have anything to reveal now may be the time.

[Jabbz]

Ok, then with what I've read so far, Gaspar makes the most sense. I also buy that Brick making a gambit at this point doesn't make a lot of sense, since scum does appear to be in a pretty good position, and novice does seem scummy. I'm not 100% on board with his AdrienIer as town read, but novice I buy as scum. We know Gaz's heart was in the right place, lets find out if his logic was as well.

[dtay]

I had a post deleted, hate getting posts deleted. Ugh.

Shorter version of what I had written:

Nothing huge to add on gaspar. Lew and gaz case basically, i agree with it. it makes sense. Gaspar.

Brick's scan makes me doubt previous novice thoughts, but I still strongly want to lynch Gaspar before novice. I still have trouble getting novice's d3 to make sense to me as scum, and I hold out the possibility that it's adrien just gliding through.

No really original thoughts after rereading Gaspar, agree with lew, and the point about voting Brick today only makign sense as scum was particularly persuasive to me. In fact, not sure if I would even be off Lew as scum sans that argument.

Rereading Adrien - (not literally a summary of everything like some previous ones were, too much stuff, only things that pop out to me as either significant or amusing)
most of d1 isn't very interesting, joke votes, joke fights, etc.

Was fighting with novice early on as significant as d1 gets, slight point toward only 1 of them being scum i guess.

On matt pretty early, null tell at this point.

What I hadn't written:

N1/D2:
"Especially from Q Fenn and Brick, 3 people who hadn't made a great impression on the first day (at least to the town in general)." looks bad in retrospect, but plenty of people made this mistake (myself, for example).

Bad argument about Fenn's decisiveness from last game. But getting on fenn isn't impossible for a town at tha tpoint (again... myself).

Writes Ditto after one of my comments, at this point this is pretty funny.

Overall d2 was very lurky and "gliding by", which he admitted in a post, but still, hard to get a read out of it.

Suspicious of novice over Qqqqqq in d3 early. Pattern here. Unfortunately not a helpful pattern, since saying "one of novice or adrien is likely scum" isn't that useful by this point.

n2/d3:
Defending Qqqqqq a lot, looks good in retrospect but not that hard to do as a scum.

Attacks sunrise for lack of content, i agree. I agree very much.

Attack on lew, also kind ok logic though presumes Qqqqqq is plausibly scum in it. lew attack actually goes on for quite a bit.

My basic reaction to this is I just have a hard time getting a strong read on this one way or the other. Nothing here screams something imposisble to do as scum. Even the things that may or may not invalidate certain scum pairings aren't ones that would be impossible to do as a gambit. The game is just... safe. It is dangerous that such a game exists, btu it's not unique to Adrien. Would like to reiterate sunrise has basically lurked through the whole thing and not even sure how I would conclude something about him one way or the other, unless we jus tlynch him on the argument a townie would have participated more.

Lack of clarity between Novice and Adrien is why I want to go Gaspar first. Novice has more scum points AND more town points from me, adrien just has little of either. That's hard to evaluate.

[dtay]

If AdrienIer, Novice or Gaspar have anything to reveal now may be the time.

This

[Gaspar]

GG Fellas.

I don't have it in me to fight this, see you on the flip side.

[Doctor Saul]

Best defense is just playing.

Can you give us your reads at least? The only things you've talked about are the case against you and Brick's reveal.

[BRickAstley]

Well, that makes me think we've got him then.

Gaspar

I feel odd having things going this smoothly but maybe things aren't always too good to be true.