[No Players] WW 36 Lurkers In The Gallery Of Peanuts

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My reason in delaying is that I have the person I find scummiest asking for it.

Here here!

[Gaspar]

Dead townies are enjoying the smell of their own farts just a bit too much atm. You got Matt because Matt is always scummy and pretty likely to get lynched early regardless because of his lurker reputation. You got me because I played a terrible game. Let's just simmer down and let the rest of the game play out before you break your arms patting yourselves on the back.

[Lewwyn]

Dead townies are enjoying the smell of their own farts just a bit too much atm.

Mnnnn I love my farts.

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How is *Sunrise* novices second most strong town? (Apart from the obligatory, scum acknowledging demise and making setting up the wifom train.) That, if anything, is sign of scum in a hard place being unwilling to rule anything out. I should know - that was me last game. 'Course, if I'm charitable, in his position it must be hard to throw town reads out without cozying up to his accusers, but even so - at least put Jabbz before Sunrise. That placing is just asking for a jump on the fact that he tried to go for a Sunrise policy the day I hung.

[Mattimeo]

From a scum POV Town-lewwyn is something that needs to die early as he is usually very strong at/after D3 (if he is not a vig).

No, no, you leave the town who are good at late-game alive because while it's admittedly harder, it's also much more fun.
Unfortunately I tend to get outvoted on that :'(

I guess the first 2 days favour players who are more intuitive, and the later days players who are more logical. I think Ichabod, for example, plays his relative best in the early game, while Lewwyn picks up steam as he goes.

Exactly!

I agree with Gazglum:

Troll.

Don't look now, but it's getting even more entertaining!

Yeah, that's a good point I'd forgotten Matt likes to vote for other scum.

Yeah, but that's just 'cause the only real scum-win is when you're role-playing Lone Wolf

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Why isn't Saul answering novices question? It's not role related, it's tells related - and as novice said, that's not the sort of thing you laugh in the face of.

In a similar vein, good Brick case by novice. Would still vote him, but that's the sort of stuff I'd expect of town-novice (I don't know how much of this is me being stubborn and wanting my lyncher and firm read dead).

Mild spoilers btw:

A chat I had with Brick in the hours after I died gave me the impression that he was town (he offered to "give me what info he had" or something, which sounded more like he was town than scum. Course, he could've just been fooling around with me/I'm overreacting, but combined with the read when I was alive I doubt he's scum. So novice is probably it (or if not, than Adrien who should be getting some sort of pressure for that tone anyway), but still a good post on his behalf.

[Gaspar]

The actual town is even more grossly self-satisfied than the dead townies. At least Lewwyn and Gazglum accomplished something. The majority of living town have done fuck all to contribute to a win. The guys in the thread basically have had three consecutive days now where they just lazily hung the first person someone put a case on. It worked once, it failed once. Even if it works with novice, it is an absolutely terrible way to play this game. And then what? Let's say novice is scum. If that isn't game over, then who else is scum? Are vanilla townies certain on the number of scum and that it is 3? Isn't this a side issue the rest of the town should be trying to explore by interacting with one another? There's no there, there. They just lazily skip along hoping the lazy read works out.

As badly as I played, the town absolutely deserves to lose this game. The only townies who really come out of this game with any credit are long dead (basically the 4 night kills.) Well, there's one townie still alive who has tried hard at least, but I'm not going to name him. But the rest have been terrible.

Oh, FWIW, I had to be talked into zak's kill by the other scum. I knew it would create the case it created.

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Agree with the above. Quite a lazy town game, tbh, myself included (even though I worked my butt off for the game, my actual reads were kinda lazy - largely because a) I was town and b) because I had to focus on defending). That said, though...this is the day when these lazy town need to come out and play. Previously, sure they were being lazy at times on me, you, and Fenn, but these are the lazy players that are left. Before you had the players now dead running the show and making it interesting - town or scum - so there wasn't such a need. Sure, more could have been done, but that's always the case. It's only in the past 2 days that that's become a problem, and a lot of that is, inevitably, because of role reveals creating a path of least resistance and narrowing the targets.

[Lewwyn]

I don't disagree. I spent a lot of the game trying to motivate people to do anything Day 2 and 3. It's why I tried to do as much as I could during the night after Day 4 before I was killed. But honestly, as the game progresses reads have to change and be fluid, if I'm dead there's no way I can tell people if my reads change.

I certainly hope the town can win though.

[Lewwyn]

Quite a lazy town game, tbh, myself included (even though I worked my butt off for the game, my actual reads were kinda lazy - largely because a) I was town and b) because I had to focus on defending).

Yeah. You really made me think you were scum during Day 3 when you basically regurgitated my case against novice.