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(March 3rd, 2015, 14:43)AdrienIer Wrote: The problem I'm having right now is that your little game with dtay is WIFOM at its best. Either you're scum or you're not, I think you are but if you're not you're just letting team scum (which would be dtay and BRick) tear me apart tomorrow. If you're scum dtay could be scum getting WIFOM cover, or just mislead town.
Sorry, stream of consciousness made me stop following my reasoning line after this point. I mean that the people who have most contributed are the ones where the main part of their game analysis is a lot of WIFOM. The others have barely participated, or not with enough controversial stuff to make an analysis of it. You think I should be attacking people on that ? But that's not specific to anyone !
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"What I dint like about Adrien is if we're wrong then we're back to novice vs brick but in aLYLO situation. So I think it has to be one of the two."
How does this not also apply to novice, just left with Adrien v brick at lylo?
Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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BTW dtay you mentioned a few days ago that the Mattimeo lynch had a "very short window where joining the wagon gives you town points" (paraphrasing), do you actually mean that there is no such window ? Because I was pretty much at the center of one such window, if you believe it exists.
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OK, I don't have any real last words to help town. Remember to reread tonight and tomorrow with all the information you now have. I think many people, myself included, haven't even reread everything with Gaspar as scum and Lewwyn as town in mind. I had to economize my time and focus a bit more on self defense than the wider picture.
Good luck and have fun.
I have to run.
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(March 3rd, 2015, 14:51)dtay Wrote: "What I dint like about Adrien is if we're wrong then we're back to novice vs brick but in aLYLO situation. So I think it has to be one of the two."
How does this not also apply to novice, just left with Adrien v brick at lylo?
Had the same thought actually, but maybe he has no doubt as to who the culprit is between BRick and me while he would have no idea between novice and BRick.
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I'm gonna have to stick to my guns. I feel like going to Adrien now would be doom. You've succeeded at really making me feel uneasy about it novice.
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Deadline.
Tally:
5 votes: Novice ( Doctor Saul, BRickAstley, AdrienIer, Jabbz, sunrise089)
2 votes: Adrien ( novice, dtay)
Voting history:
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Novice if you flip town I'm really sorry for today. Your defense was extraordinary.
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The window is small, and location uncertain to us since we don't have the scum thread, such that I hesitate to say any vote actually can be said with confidence to be in the hard-to-make-as-scum period. (and plausibly nonextant, said that in some post).
Like I could see your vote being either after or before said. 5-3 (think that's what it was) isn't a prohibitive lead in the slightest when all 15 people are still alive (so 7 votes left). Especially given Matt was a policy lynch in many eyes so scum could think easy to evaporate. Especially if Scum were already on Matt and planning to abandon (like if you + someone else were scum on matt that lead is ephemeral, with plenty of time left to go jump somewhere else).
Or it was just a planned bus, it certainly became a planned bus.
Or you're town.
The explanations aren't consistent but that's the point. Degrees of uncertainty around day 1 movements are so large only that magnitude of any town/scum point allocation has to be small.
Fear cuts deeper than swords.
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