WW 36 - Horrors in Kingsport [Game Thread]

[dtay]

Things I was gonna do last night: play werewolf and my pb22 turn
Things I did do last night - fall asleep on a coach holding my laptop



Mh thoughts on Adrien's defenses -

Why are Zak and Rowain necessarily pro-Brick deaths? I don't remember them really pushing Brick to a meaningful extent. If there's a methedology to the NK I've been able to notice it's been "always kill the obvi-town".

Don't find the Gaspar trying to get cred explanation persuasive. Him jumping from Brick to novice feels like scum flailing about trying to get enough purchase to last one more day, not someone set on a particular lynch for the cred. And why not just have Brick (or final-scum) come out hard bussing Gaspar instead, which is infinitely simpler and more likely to work?

Given literally no one left alive has successfully pushed through a scum lynch, that doesn't get us much of anywhere.

My thoughts on brick defenses -

Uhh, there hasn't really been any, at least ones I really have thoughts on, besides brief replies to Adrien.

Huh? Lack of args this day has been bizarre to me, from everyone, I know I also didn't really speak that much but that's cause I info dumped all my thoughts on this subject during the night and previous day.

Other things - Jabbz I know you said you're going to be busy but it's now about 8 hours before deadline and no one really knows which way you're leaning, it comes off like scum trying to delay decision to bus or mislynch in case sunrise or I flip. Then again you're engaging a lot more than sunrise even if you don't actually have a vote down.

[dtay]

(Not a real attack BTW, just illustrating how BRick's attack on me on that matter was BS)

Agree with this.

[AdrienIer]

I would link the relevant Rowain and Zak quotes but on my phone it's not feasible. Reread the nights they got killed and you'll find them. I helped the Gaspar lynch to some extent by expanding on Gazglum's case

[dtay]

Will do

[dtay]

These both seem like stretches

Rowain expressed Brick suspicions n1, then proceeded to pretty much ignore them all d2 cause of the zak kill, thinking the wolves were trying to get us to mislynch zak voters. And then only mentions Qqqqqq (unclear whether he suspected Qqqqqq or not).

Same with Zak. he has a post questioning brick, but his primary suspect was Lew, and then after that Jabbz and Sunrise (the coincidence of which is not lost on me). Specifically he says

Brick, you said yesterday that you don't function well as town when you're put on the defensive (paraphrasing), so I said we should ease up on the pressure and let you play. Now you've had a day, and I think that's enough, so I'm lifting the amnesty. I did like some of your posts yesterday but that's really beside the point. To be honest I dislike the quote digging that you're doing there because it looks like you may be trying to construct a contradiction.

which is mixed. Compare to the others who he said are on his scumlist just the page before.

Jabbz, sunrise, your thoughts? At least one of you is town so if I get both of your opinions... lol

[BRickAstley]

I know for sure if I'm lynched today we will lose

So it has to be a 4 scum team now ?

Well I'm now assuming that's the case because you've mentioned it multiple times and since you're scum you know it is true, so it must be true.

[BRickAstley]

-His enemies are falling like leaves

Oh you you've been attacking me for supposedly hitting people who suspect me the most then huh?

Zak: Said that I am allowed to be pressured now, after his personal giving me a 'break' the day before. Hardly suspicion in itself. Talks more about Jabbz and sunrise.
Rowain: Only mentioned Qgqqqqq that previous night. Pretty quiet before that.
Gazglum: The Gaspar Manifesto. Also did mention me as a possible second.
Lewwyn: Novice is the most scummy. Also did mention me as a possible second.
Dr. Saul: Says both of us are scum.

So out of those five only Gazglum and Lewwyn really laid out hints that they were interested in attacking me the next day. And on top of that, Gazglum was a pretty undisputed power role, and they were both easily the most villagerly people left alive at that point.

And actually, that's the story of pretty much all of the lynches so far. All of those first 4 lynches were really good town players dying, who had either been making good arguments and rooting out scum anyways, or would be sure to do so soon if left alive. Dr. Saul arguably fits in there as well, though he did have an active power role so that's probably a big reason why you killed him too.

The people who have been nightkilled aren't a secret cabal of people who would take me out if left alive. They are good villagers making good arguments who any scum would likely be very happy to kill. I'm thinking back to who was alive when and if you tried to pick a player each night who seemed most likely to help the village find bad people, I don't know which of those you wouldn't choose at night.

Don't go swinging your tactic of taking out good players back into my face.

[BRickAstley]

My thoughts on brick defenses -

Uhh, there hasn't really been any, at least ones I really have thoughts on, besides brief replies to Adrien.

Huh? Lack of args this day has been bizarre to me, from everyone, I know I also didn't really speak that much but that's cause I info dumped all my thoughts on this subject during the night and previous day.

Yeah that's exactly what I'm running into. :P I've answered everything I know about that I have been asked or accused of, and I've gone through all of AdrienIer's posts and pointed out interactions with Mattimeo and Gaspar that now seem suspicious since I know he's scum. What else can I defend about or dig up from the past if there is not anything else? I'll continue to reiterate that I am town and AdrienIer is scum but yeah.

So Dtay, Sunrise, Jabbz: Any other specific questions for me?

[BRickAstley]

Brick, will you be around tomorrow pre-deadline? I'm going to aim to have my re-read done a few hours before it, and so I may have questions then.

Yep, should be on the rest of the day from now.

[AdrienIer]

Zak's comment I read as a promise to analyze you carefully, especially after you weird D1. Rowain's comment about you being suspiscious may have been during D2, if somebody could be so kind as to look for it in a Rowain reread of D2 I'm sure you'll find it. And you're saying that lots of good town players suspected you, how is that a point in your favor ?