WW37- For Whom the Bell Trolls

[pindicator]

I'm not accusing Fenn of trying to mislynch Dtay on a joke vote. I was thinking that Dtay's self-confessed lack of time for this game means that an argument could be made that he is a least-bad choice for a Day 1 lynch, and I was interested to see if Fenn would make it. I'm trying to do my best Novice impression, I'm not advocating a Dtay lynch.

Dang, wish I would have seen that. scumhunt: activate, indeed

[novice]

Why is claiming early uncomfortable for scum? They know that whatever role they have, it's perfectly legitimate for them to claim it. Given the possible benefits for them in a massclaim, I don't see why they'd hesitate.

You don't? I agree with Zak that that feels disingenious. I think any scum would feel trepidation at claiming first no matter what assurances the GM has given.

I'm not accusing Fenn of trying to mislynch Dtay on a joke vote. I was thinking that Dtay's self-confessed lack of time for this game means that an argument could be made that he is a least-bad choice for a Day 1 lynch, and I was interested to see if Fenn would make it. I'm trying to do my best Novice impression, I'm not advocating a Dtay lynch.

As was obvious. That said, if you're impersonating me, why are you asking me how to play day 1 as scum?

[Rowain]

I think any scum would feel trepidation at claiming first no matter what assurances the GM has given.

I agree with that. But the real problem (and most likely the reason we never did it) is in which sequence to do the reveals. IMO scum have little to fear if they are the last to claim.

[Jabbz]

Bah, meant to hit preview. Was going to follow up and ask if you thought if I really wanted to get rid of zakalwe based on my vote? I mean, I even pushed zak to 2 votes compared to Fenn being the first to vote Dtay.

I'm not accusing Fenn of trying to mislynch Dtay on a joke vote. I was thinking that Dtay's self-confessed lack of time for this game means that an argument could be made that he is a least-bad choice for a Day 1 lynch, and I was interested to see if Fenn would make it. I'm trying to do my best Novice impression, I'm not advocating a Dtay lynch.

We lynched a lurker first night in the last game and it worked well enough, but that was dumb freaking luck and we shouldn't count on that again. By all means, if we have nothing better, I'd be ok lynching the wolf that almost won last game, but only absent a better option.

I think any scum would feel trepidation at claiming first no matter what assurances the GM has given.

I agree with that. But the real problem (and most likely the reason we never did it) is in which sequence to do the reveals. IMO scum have little to fear if they are the last to claim.

That's always the question right? If Zak has a damn good town power role, he is going to be potentially hurt more than scum would be by being forced to claim. Scum can lie, and have a group to work with on framing their lie. Town has to cop to exactly what they are, because if they don't, later on if they change their story they will be killed. If they have a good role, they are going to be killed anyway because scum now knows a valuable target.

[Rowain]

@Gaz and Bob

Sure that shadeun knows this game has started?

[Jabbz]

Forgot to respond to this last night, and the conversation about lurking brought it to mind.

Two things are unrelated. I am busy, and nearly didn't join because of it. Hence I'll be lurking more.

Another player reminded Q that I existed. Q was excited, because we hadn't seen each other in ages. And so...here I am.

What I meant by this was that, assuming you play in character, you're going to be acting a lot differently than the Qg that we know, thus it will be harder to read. Add that to your lurking and you'd make a great wolf this game, whether or not they are related :P

[Jabbz]

I'd vote Shadeun for not checking in, but I don't want the new guy to feel piled on. So for now I'll keep my vote on Qg's "friend" (you know its wrong to abuse the trust of those who have been victimized in the past right Qg?) because a skilled player that is able to lurk and play differently than normal is as good a place as any for a vote to reside for now.

[Gazglum]

@Gaz and Bob

Sure that shadeun knows this game has started?

I've told him, but he's away this weekend and I haven't heard from him. I'm hoping he'll check in sometime this evening.

As was obvious. That said, if you're impersonating me, why are you asking me how to play day 1 as scum?

Well I thought about impersonating you as town impersonating you as scum, but i worried some fidelity might be lost in all those transactions. Let me know if you have any insights.

Jabbz, I know that there's not much to go on yet, but Q's not exactly piling on the Dickensian roleplaying. And he has an avergae amount of posts, he's not lurking. And he picked Agnes before he got his role. And I don't remember you going after Doctor Saul for smurfing last game, and Commodore is doing it this game too. So your reasoning feels a bit weak.

[novice]

Q may not be lurking, but his posts are one pointless meta post and one unconvincing anti-mass claim post.

Agnes

[Jabbz]

I didn't know Saul was someone's alt for a while last game, until at least a couple of days in. I'd never played with Pindi either. I know he isn't lurking atm, but he did say it was something that was coming. Also, as you will note, I said it gives the potential to get some advantages, not that he was scum. Besides, I really REALLY just wanted an excuse to throw that line about her being his "friend" and taking advantage of her :P