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Did you play the turn ? If not DO NOT PLAY IT we need to discuss TGL.
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I simmed it and the GS could spawn from the cap. Should we build wealth this turn, take the risk of losing the wonder for 1t and finish it next turn ?
March 24th, 2015, 12:01
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Working 2 scientists in TOS makes it finish the next GS in 5t, which is not bad. (actually probably more like 3t because GA will make that even shorter)
March 24th, 2015, 13:30
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Haven't played, but I also say take TGL. Would be just too stupid to lose it now.
Actually one more thing: we can get CS 2 turns after the GP is born. Do we want to delay the GA by those 2 turns, to switch to Bureacracy right at the start of it? I think it's probably better, or is there a reason why we would need the GA immediately?
In the same sense getting a GS from TOS 5 turns after a GE in Pfeffi wouldn't be too bad.
It'll be like 2h more till I play / send the save.
March 24th, 2015, 13:51
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Oh yeah getting a GE would be amazing. Dreylin any opinion on waiting 2t for the GA so we can get into Bureau at the beginning of the GA ?
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Er, nothing strong is coming to me.
I guess if we fire the GA straight away, would that bring it down to 1t until CS?
Is there anything planned in the Capital that would benefit from the extra turn of GA+Bureau hammers?
March 24th, 2015, 16:00
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Beautiful. Also in fact the GP was born in Pfeffi, but in the end it was the (low odds) scientist. Alright.
some dots for the peninsula. I'm pre-chopping G's granary already, the barbarian worker could also start chopping actually, for the cothon to follow.
Downside of delaying the GA is that this also delays Verdigris' and Kiwi's border pops. The former is pretty bad off without its fish. Same for Hindu missionaries, which I would like very much for Kiwi and Pfeffi (TOS and Hulk could do that)
If we launch the GA, research CS in 1t (don't know yet if that's possible) and swap civics on the second GA turn, can we still switch back to slavery before it ends? Anyone volunteering to sim it (else I will).
Pfeffi still wants to build ToA, NE, and a market, so hammers are very welcome, plus with the Academy the extra commerce is extra tasty of course, so yeah, we sort of have a bureaucap (despite lacking food somewhat and clearly suboptimal cottage growth)
In foreign news, Mardoc accepted the trade, and somehow he has passed us in CY significantly, despite having less cities. TIme to let the ![whip whip](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/whip.gif) rest a little, at least for the GA... Lots of action in THH's thread today, what's our speculation on that?
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Great ! I say we stop building any more wonders (although... Is the Colossus still available ?) and focus on development. Build some infra, lots of units including some more workers for the forests, and use the GA to get back on THH's level. I'm not sure if it's just the number of cities that is making him snowball like crazy, maybe Org has something to do with it though.
We're going to have to start thinking about how to win this game now, it's early but only THH has the luxury of laying back and waiting for the game to win itself (I doubt he'll do that). Attacking AlH ? Maybe. Mardoc seems too far. Cultural victory is really far into the future too. I'm assuming that there's an ocean passage in the north if we were to kinda beeline astronomy, where we could attack AlH by surprise. Being phi we want early education (maybe bulbing lib) for cheap uni/oxford. If we could use lib for astro we could have a chance at a surprise boat invasion. My current stance is mostly to develop our land, use Rep and this GA to get us back into business (maybe getting Music sometimes into the future, for a second GA with a scientist), and we'll reassess when we get to education if we're still in the race by then.
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Colossus is what's keeping mardoc relevant.
By my feeling, GA will be a lot about courthouses (THH has lots of them, that's definitely a good part of his strength) and further infrastructure. I count ToA at Pfeffi as such, also the other buildings mentioned above.
Courthouses I want at least in ToS, Kiwi, Perrier, Caipirinha, 'G'. They're awfully expensive though (80h) and I doubt any will get finished before we get back to slavery at the end of the GA.
Units will be mostly GD for a while, also hulk, peas and red star in supporting roles. If GD can fit in a library we'll take it with pleasure.
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