If we grew the capital to size 5 on the Corn, Deer, riverside grass hill, and the two plains hills (mining wines for now), we'd net 18 food/hammers, and if we were IMP, that'd be 25 fhpt for building Settlers, so 4-turn Settlers. And.... 4 turn Workers with overflow. That configuration would sacrifice early commerce for early production, but it could pay off if we could settle and develop other land quickly. Other factor is how quickly the capital could be grown to size 5 and fully improved. It's 24 Worker Turns, not counting time spent moving.
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ipecac tries crumpets with green tea [SPOILERS]
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In process of simming. China for Agri/mining looks best so far for earliest corn and BW, but Khmer for hunting/mining will be decent too as will persia and zulu for hunting/agri. If all these fall at least we can grab FIN/IMP.
(March 28th, 2015, 16:26)DTG Wrote: 1.DTG: Mehmed So those are the picks thus far! Mehmed (EXP/ORG), a nice choice in my opinion, even though no FIN. Huayna Capac (FIN/IND), not sure what need to be said about that. Zulu... darn! Oh well, it's a very good pick. Darius (FIN/ORG) also very good. So, yeah, we can definitely grab Victoria (FIN/IMP) so then what to pair with? I don't know if Khmer is such a hot pick. UU may not come into play, and I don't know if we'd really want to invest in the UB. China would be solid but not inspiring. I understand the UU can be very useful in the right circumstances, but UB is useless. Persia has good techs for us, but UU probably won't be super useful. UB isn't interesting, but I think a Grocer that adds more health is pretty good for what it is. I did some sims the other day (using Zulu) so with a Agri/Hunting start I know we can get a Settler out EoT24. Agri/Mining start would still be fine. I don't think we'd have to tech straight for BW unless we can do something clever with it. Anyway, the pick is open for you when you are back. (March 28th, 2015, 16:37)Whosit Wrote: I did some sims the other day (using Zulu) so with a Agri/Hunting start I know we can get a Settler out EoT24. Agri/Mining start would still be fine. I don't think we'd have to tech straight for BW unless we can do something clever with it.With IMP early BW (Plan 1) allows us to chop out the second worker then chop out a settler by eot 25. Camp is unimproved, the settler is a little later and 3 forests are exchanged for a worker. Since it's night in the US I'll just take a little more time to think. Also I tried to reach you via Gchat but it's not working?
Decided on china over Persia because the CKNs are likely to be more useful than Immortals and Apothecaries are expensive at a time where it's time to spam knights.
With no other IMPs (except maybe Khan) the question is how much I can expand without crashing, Small Toroidal and all. It'll be fun. 
You probably couldn't reach me on Gchat because I was asleep. And I guess it needed my permission which I just gave it. Anyway! IMP/FIN China, sounds fun. Gonna look at your sim info. I have to admit I've never been very good with the early turns. Or the middle turns. I've never even gotten to the late turns. :P
Edit: Can't get in to look because I don't have permission to view what's on your google drive. (March 29th, 2015, 09:26)Whosit Wrote: You probably couldn't reach me on Gchat because I was asleep. And I guess it needed my permission which I just gave it. Anyway! IMP/FIN China, sounds fun. Gonna look at your sim info. I have to admit I've never been very good with the early turns. Or the middle turns. I've never even gotten to the late turns. :PThat's fine. In any case I only have have about half a game under my belt, so I'm not better. Quote:Edit: Can't get in to look because I don't have permission to view what's on your google drive.Oops. Access given.
Messing around with some plans of my own, and I think BW first is best for sure. Instead of chopping 3 forests, could chop 2, revolt to Slavery T24, and 1-pop whip Settler T25. 2 Workers and 1 Settler EoT25, so save a forest in exchange for 1pop. If Hunting was researched 2nd, then Camp could be under construction at this point. However, I doubt this is the best play because the camp would be finished long before the city regrows to size 2. Could tech Wheel before Hunting, but I dunno. Not really sure if the whip is worth it but it's another option. I imagine getting that 2nd early Worker is the best play rather than building 2 Warriors and a Settler. Some of the decision making will be based on what we scout, I suppose.
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