WW38: The Story of the Stories

[Rowain]

My ability is very in-character with post "Robots and Empire" Daneel, where he gains mental powers.

Ah yeah the part of Asimovs work I dislike.

[novice]

I'll go with Ichabod on Mattimeo for now. He thinks my joke is bad, thats, okay, I guess, sort of, maybe, but why did it make me scum?

It's D1. We have no actual information. I'm honestly not expecting to be able to land scum (though the last few games might force me to rethink that liklihood).
The point of my D1 vote is generally to make the game better. Either by removing unrepentant lurkers who show no signs of contributing further in the coming days, or killing off people who think that lying about rather important information is a 'joke' (and are thus showing the propensity to do so later, when it really can cost us the game).

This reminds me of your WW36 play where you voted for dtay based on him doing something ostensibly anti-game, but not antitown.

"unfair to the people who are known for being good wolf players" is irrelevant. Why would we care if a strategy is fair?

Why not read the spoiler thread, then?

Also, if you want to play more games, having a policy of "always vote for the best wolf players," also known as "always vote for the same people," is not likely to encourage them to play more games with you.

dtay

Shadeun is objectively scummy but also seems to be flying solo. Serial killer, perhaps, would fit with his Tyler Durden character.

The third person to try to put forward the idea that characters are tied to alignment; the third to immediately recant when called on it.
The others could have been inexperience, or lack of comprehension, but this one came well after the other instances had been corrected.
It's only a 'brain fart' when someone calls you on your deliberate frame-job, rather than running with it.

You really believe that I'm trying to get Shadeun lynched based on his character, and that noone will point out the flaw in that? Like, really really?

Given that I will be able to prove whether or not Krill is lying at the end of the day. I think it's prudent to chase another suspect, though I'd still like to hear more from Krill about his opinions and reads so far on the game when he gets the chance, hopefully soon.

Novice if you believe Krill, he prevented a night kill last night. Who else do you suspect?

I believe Krill's claim but a scum jailer would also target a townish player. There must be many ways to prevent a night kill, but I agree that Krill could be the person responsible.

To answer your question, I suspect Mattimeo based on the above. Also

Would the switch go through if target is jailed?

Generally depends on priority. As long as the GM has a list of the order actions take place in (which iirc BRick has been pretty good at), we're good.

For our side of things, I'd think gaoler should be before switching, due to its blocking element.
So, if everyone's telling the truth, likely sequence is:
Krill imprisoned Lewwyn
Adrien's switch was blocked
((kill on Lewwyn was blocked))

-- or could be kill Lewwyn made, but no. Really, no.

Redirector typically resolves first, in which case Pindicator was jailed. Which incidentally means that Krill doesn't get any credit for preventing a night kill after all. Anyway, Pindicator makes sense as a scum nightkiller.

On a general note, I expect scum to stick as closely to the truth as possible in their claims, given the multitude of powers. Which means that Pindicator probably was jailed regardless of the alignment of Pindicator, Krill and AdrienIer.

[AdrienIer]

Huh, you really believe Pindicator being a jailed scum nightkiller is more likely than Lewwyn being the scum target ? I mean it's possible but the probability is small. (And it's not even mutually exclusive)

[novice]

No, if Lewwyn was the night kill target...

Oh right, the night kill would also be redirected to pindicator along with the jailing.

OK, Mattimeo, then.

[AdrienIer]

Yeah, and if Pindicator is scum he narrowly escaped a hilarious death

[Mattimeo]

Redirector typically resolves first, in which case Pindicator was jailed.

That link doesn't mention 'redirector roles' at all. It has commuters (ie. self-target, remove from target pool) first, then blockers.

For someone so quick to ridicule the argument that you'd say something demonstratably false in the hope that no-one calls you on it, you certainly seem to be doing exactly the same thing immediately afterwards.

[AdrienIer]

Oh wait I haven't voted yet have I ? Novice has been playing strangely. Hard to read the RPing people though.

[AdrienIer]

Not giving Krill town points is pretty weird for example, if he's scum and jailed Lewwyn why weren't there any deaths ?

[Rowain]

Huh, you really believe Pindicator being a jailed scum nightkiller is more likely than Lewwyn being the scum target ? I mean it's possible but the probability is small. (And it's not even mutually exclusive)

How do you come to the conclusion that the chances for pindi being the scum-nightkiller is small?


But from the fact that there was no NK one learns currently little especially as we don't really know who got jailed or not. Additional there could be other powers interfering , scum can also have a delayed kill (we had one in WW10 and used it on N1)

[Rowain]

Not giving Krill town points is pretty weird for example, if he's scum and jailed Lewwyn why weren't there any deaths ?

see above