WW38: The Story of the Stories

[AdrienIer]

Brick just answered me saying he can't be too specific, but that his order of operations is "consistant and logical". I think that means I come first but Lewwyn will have to confirm at the end of the day

[BRickAstley]

8. Night actions have been preassigned a priority order.

[Ichabod]

And you know what else gets on my nerves? When Meiz calls me a deep cover wolf. It's god damn day 2, how the hell would I be a frigging deep cover wolf. And deep cover wolf means a wolf that actually looks like a villager/is not suspected, right? But Meiz has actually been suspecting me the whole game, how can he call me a deep cover wolf? It's kinda like his comment passes a subconscious feeling that he doesn't believe I'm a wolf himself. It's kinda like he knows he's faking. Seriously, it's so bad that I could very well vote for him.

And now that I look back. Meiz's vote on Gazglum was made way before the final push that got him lynched...

And Meiz, what was the prupose behind this question you asked me?

So Ichabod would you vote Gazglum over Shadeun?

You were voting Gazglum... And Gazglum was receiving more votes... Why ask this? Why not try to convince me to follow your vote instead of asking a question like this...? It's almost as if you wanted to know for sure what I'd do or to make me say something like: "no, I won't vote for Gaz", so I couldn't backtrack it...

It's like that, really. Some guys are really clean and tidy on the outside, but their shaver is dirty and has never been washed...

[Lewwyn]

That mysterious neighbor sounds a lot like Mattimeo...

Funny, that.

Can confirm Mattimeo is my neighbor.

[Ichabod]

I think Mattimeo is doing the usual "I won't defend or say anything and people will eventually forget about me" defense.

Sure; what do you want me to actually defend against?

Well, you really are a good one, Matt. It's very difficult to catch you, considering the way you play. This question, for instance, was very good, really, because there really isn't anything I can actually ask you to explain. Like, in a question. I could try asking you to justify your votes on meiz and Molach, that I think were bad, but you can just refer to the slight bit of justification you gave to them. What I was going at with that comment is that you act like you didn't even realize you were being voted, you really don't seem to care at all. But, now that you had the opportunity to put me in a bad spot with such a direct question, you took it.

Very good...

[Meiz]

Meiz, c'mon. Novice switching to Molach would be very easy as scum. Wake up, please. For him to get called on it, we'd have to lynch Gazglum afterwards. Which was not that likely, really, because Gazglum's lynch didn't have massive support from the players, it just kind happened in the end, really.

And a lot of other stuff would stand out on rereads, other than that single Novice vote for Molach.

And I've actually reread Novice's posts. He has not a single post on day 1 that invalidates a Molach vote until the post where he votes Fenn. And why did he goes so far as to defend Molach in his post voting Fenn near the deadline? Why not just vote Fenn while keeping a late switch option opened? Defending Molach was pretty bad if he wanted to protect Gazglum with that Fenn vote, which is what you are saying he did. No comments on that, Mr. Oh-It-Was-Easy-To-See?

First off, I assure you I'm awake, however hard that might be to imagine . You seriously claim that last minute switch to save a scum buddy is no issue at all, especially when Gaz hanging is unclear until the last minutes? Novice started Fenn push with 30 minutes to, which is plenty of time to switch things around at RB. Don't find suspecting him for that so ridiculous as you make it to be.

You are smarter than the case you are making agains me, Meiz. Let's see, tour case on me that you made during the night relies on Molach being scum (otherwise why would I stir the pot with Shadeun and vote Gazglum?). Your case on me now relies on Novice being scum (otherwise, why would I backtrack my vote?). That's a really big stretch and you're just seeing what you want to see, it doesn't make any sense. It's actually so bad play coming from you that I'm starting to suspect you of faking it. Usually when you make a case, you check out and link posts and all that. Now you are just throwing mud at me for no reason, just looking at everything through a bad light with badly thought one-liners saying "this doesn't make sense". I bet you'll keep me as your own pocket case for the rest of the game, which is a pretty phony move.

I definitely admit my case against you is mostly due to seeing your targets and disagreeing with them + gut feel. Don't think Molach is scum at the moment (there is no golden wolf book that describe how the actions above can only draw one conclusion). But don't worry, you will clearly not hang today, so I'm going to keep you in that pocket and in case you are town, hopefully I can be convinced as the game progresses. Haven't had much of an issue with that before, which is part of why I suspect you atm.

And I said that that one Goreripper post was phony, not his play overall. Do you see me voting for him? Do you see me throwing him at possible vote list?

I disagreed with that post being phony.

And you know what else gets on my nerves? When Meiz calls me a deep cover wolf. It's god damn day 2, how the hell would I be a frigging deep cover wolf. And deep cover wolf means a wolf that actually looks like a villager/is not suspected, right? But Meiz has actually been suspecting me the whole game, how can he call me a deep cover wolf? It's kinda like his comment passes a subconscious feeling that he doesn't believe I'm a wolf himself. It's kinda like he knows he's faking. Seriously, it's so bad that I could very well vote for him.

Yes, I would call a wolf voting to lynch his partner as deep cover wolf.

And Meiz, what was the prupose behind this question you asked me?

So Ichabod would you vote Gazglum over Shadeun?

You were voting Gazglum... And Gazglum was receiving more votes... Why ask this? Why not try to convince me to follow your vote instead of asking a question like this...? It's almost as if you wanted to know for sure what I'd do or to make me say something like: "no, I won't vote for Gaz", so I couldn't backtrack it...

I wanted you to vote Gaz as you had mentioned him as one of your suspects.

[Ichabod]

First off, I assure you I'm awake, however hard that might be to imagine . You seriously claim that last minute switch to save a scum buddy is no issue at all, especially when Gaz hanging is unclear until the last minutes? Novice started Fenn push with 30 minutes to, which is plenty of time to switch things around at RB. Don't find suspecting him for that so ridiculous as you make it to be.

I'm not saying it's ridiculous to suspect Novice for that Fenn vote. I voted him for it, goddamnit, see the start of day 2. It's just that I realized there could be a different meaning to that vote and changed my vote to someone I suspect more.

What's ridiculuos is that you are accusing me because I changed my Novice vote! You said: "Because he believed in the influencing powers of the brothers, and did not wan't to make his Gaz saving vote too obvious? A very tiny read from you to clear him". And that's unfair, because it's not a tiny read, it's a possible read, just as your read is also just possible, not probable.

And I said that that one Goreripper post was phony, not his play overall. Do you see me voting for him? Do you see me throwing him at possible vote list?

I disagreed with that post being phony.

So why didn't you say just that? You said: "Disagreed once again. I usually find Goreripper scummy, but his play so far is quite towny, which is amazing concidering he keeps up the RP (wich is hilarious btw goodjob )". It's like you decided to disregard that I was specifically focusing on a single post.

Perhaps you are just trying to justify your gut feel to yourself, Meiz, but it really seems like you are just forcing a case on me, while twisting things up.

[Rowain]

Last night, I used my night action and got a No Result - which, knowing what we know so far about last night's actions, I can't explain.

That needs more specification from you.
Since you partially claimed already and you might have uncovered a lie I ask you to come clear now.

[Meiz]

What's ridiculuos is that you are accusing me because I changed my Novice vote! You said: "Because he believed in the influencing powers of the brothers, and did not wan't to make his Gaz saving vote too obvious? A very tiny read from you to clear him". And that's unfair, because it's not a tiny read, it's a possible read, just as your read is also just possible, not probable.

I see. Simply didn't find your reasoning strong enough to clear novice and commented on it. Exactly because there are many possible sides to the story.

And I said that that one Goreripper post was phony, not his play overall. Do you see me voting for him? Do you see me throwing him at possible vote list?

I disagreed with that post being phony.

So why didn't you say just that? You said: "Disagreed once again. I usually find Goreripper scummy, but his play so far is quite towny, which is amazing concidering he keeps up the RP (wich is hilarious btw goodjob )". It's like you decided to disregard that I was specifically focusing on a single post.

Perhaps you are just trying to justify your gut feel to yourself, Meiz, but it really seems like you are just forcing a case on me, while twisting things up.

Well you did attack Goreripper, so I told you I disagree and that I've found his play good so far. Honestly I find your attacks on me as nitpicking on tiny details and making them bigger deals than it actually is.

[Fenn]

Last night, I used my night action and got a No Result - which, knowing what we know so far about last night's actions, I can't explain.

That needs more specification from you.
Since you partially claimed already and you might have uncovered a lie I ask you to come clear now.

Alright - I'm a Role Seer. Last night I targeted Krill and received a No Result. Nobody has claimed to jail Krill or roleblock myself, so it seems that somebody is holding back their real actions last night.