WW39. Escape from the Congo.

[Gazglum]

I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination.

This. Very much.

Do you have other suspects? What do you think of everyone else after your near-death experience?

[Gazglum]

Time to put down a vote. I don't feel like I've found a world view where everything makes sense yet.

What are your thoughts on Rowain/Zak?

[Rowain]

Thinking a bit more about yesterday I'm beginning to lean town on AdrienIer.

If I do that and then think about possible scum-pairs I fond that Shadeun fits with everyone. It even explains zaks switch. When Shadeun voted he had to make sure he didn't risk zak's live. Later they feared if Adrien rolls town 2 scums on him might be bad so zak was looking for a save way out and jumped on first chance.

From the other pairings I find a zak+Matt and novice + Matt unlikely. zak+novice is well possible as they are strong enough to push lynches through.

novice + Gaz and Matt + Gaz are well possible. The combination zak + Gaz is IMO less likely.

So Shadeun .

[Shadeun]

So I'm currently inclined to vote zak but I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination. Especially Shadeun is a hot candidate IMO.

Rowain, given your (usual) ability to scum hunt and my previous statements about wanting revenge. Don't you think you would've died night 1 if I was scum?

Search your feelings Rowain, you know it to be true.


Even then, cast your vote. Either vote for me, vote for Zak (which may as well be a vote for AdrienIer, given how the end of D1 played out), or pressure vote Mattimeo to show up.

End of the day, you have been around (you posted straight after me this morning BST and then a few hours later) and didn't want to venture the first post (admittedly I didn't first post either but was pretty clear through the night I favoured AdrienIer). So you are being MUCH more reticent than usual.

All of your stuff reads like you just can't muster your usual fire to find scum.

Still like AdrienIer as better lynch however and his posts reek of having given up // pointing the finger everywhere // buddying up and, most of all, not scum hunting.

The best combinations involve AdrienIer + Zak or Gaz, with you and Zak being my only real combo involving you. And Zak doesn't exactly work with you as I doubt you'd play that way D1 and follow each other on Adrien like that.

If I had a good hypothesis on who could plausibly be your buddy I would switch to you.

However, you were first and early on AdrienIer so I'm either wrong on Adrien or wrong on you. Don't feel you as part of that team.

Confusion reigns in my mind. I think the simple one is Adrien + Gaz with gaz consciously turning to chat to Adrien today to cover up the entire end to yesterday.

Other Points:
Novice: Biggest town lean for me given reasons stated a post or so ago, (just dont think he implicates bob and lewwyn. questions lewwyn. and then has him killed in night as wolf). So excluded from combos.

We are now at the point where we have nothing from Matt. And he works well paired with almost anybody.
Actually: we can almost 'chance' a lynch on matt today and then the rest becomes a known commodity as more engaged and still enough around to ensure town win if we lynch correctly on day 3.

TLDR Lynch priorities AdrienIer>Mattimeo (for pressure reasons today only)>Gazglum>Rowain>Zak>Novice

[Gazglum]

The best combinations involve AdrienIer + Zak or Gaz, with you and Zak being my only real combo involving you. And Zak doesn't exactly work with you as I doubt you'd play that way D1 and follow each other on Adrien like that.

If I had a good hypothesis on who could plausibly be your buddy I would switch to you.

However, you were first and early on AdrienIer so I'm either wrong on Adrien or wrong on you. Don't feel you as part of that team.

Confusion reigns in my mind. I think the simple one is Adrien + Gaz with gaz consciously turning to chat to Adrien today to cover up the entire end to yesterday.

I agree Rowain not paired with Adrien. But I don't think its impossible that Rowain and Zak would collaborate to this extent. It's a small game, they only need to bluff through 3 mislynches. I know that Zak is willing to make the 'obvious' plays in these kinds of games.

What do you see as the case on Adrien, summarised?

[AdrienIer]

I also fear a mattimeo + Shadeun combination.

This. Very much.

Do you have other suspects? What do you think of everyone else after your near-death experience?

Good vibes on novice. That leaves Zak Rowain and you : you seem like your usual self this game, Rowain was a town lean but you're making me doubt that, and I'm not completely sure about Zak because while I was leaning town on him voting for me today is consistent with wolf-Zak changing his vote at the last moment. He could have decided that I was more mislyncheable than Bob and is now trying to get the second mislynch done.

[Shadeun]

What do you see as the case on Adrien, summarised?

Ichibod style, mostly tonal. Also: per the same post "Still like AdrienIer as better lynch however and his posts reek of having given up // pointing the finger everywhere // buddying up and, most of all, not scum hunting." pretty much covers it.

Adrien came into this game and tried to get close to a few people, almost got lynched (seemingly gave up and admitted he hadn't posted well) and has followed you onto the easiest lynch in the game this morning (Matt).

[Shadeun]

FWIW: I really like playing with Adrien and I feel that maybe I'm seeing in him a lot of things that other people see in me (he's pretty casual with posts, likes the game to be funny).

AdrienIer is just my best idea at the moment. I did a full re-read before the last post and will do one again.

Thinking a bit more about yesterday I'm beginning to lean town on AdrienIer.

If I do that and then think about possible scum-pairs I fond that Shadeun fits with everyone. It even explains zaks switch. When Shadeun voted he had to make sure he didn't risk zak's live. Later they feared if Adrien rolls town 2 scums on him might be bad so zak was looking for a save way out and jumped on first chance.
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So Shadeun .

Why do you lean town more on AdrienIer, Rowain? Admittedly zaks and your initial post to helped inform my choice and am now sticking with it because I see no better ideas (and no buddy for you besides maybe Zak ...).

How do I work in other pairs? You just put me with Zak but no others? Zak is the only combo I think you could make me with and seem reasonable, except obviously Matt but everyone fits with him (except novice who I consider almost certainly town). Why not vote Mattimeo to pressure a contribution?

[AdrienIer]

What do you see as the case on Adrien, summarised?

Ichibod style, mostly tonal. Also: per the same post "Still like AdrienIer as better lynch however and his posts reek of having given up // pointing the finger everywhere // buddying up and, most of all, not scum hunting." pretty much covers it.

Pointing the finger everywhere ? I've said I suspected you and Matt. That's hardly everywhere. Buddying up to whom ? Are you sure you're not mixing me up with Zak who started giving away town points 5 seconds after the game began ?

I'll be honest here and say that the complete lack of scumhunting coming from you makes that last comment ridiculous. After applauding Matt for an empty post (buddying up ?) you voted for me without any reasoning, then tunneled so hard that no one noticed you never gave any reason for your vote. Your earlier discussion with Zak was yet another example of you invoking a magical "Adrien is the better vote" line, unexplained. Honestly either you're a wolf or you really, really need to reread the thread trying to be objective (which is good once in a while, especially when it's pretty short like this time).

Adrien came into this game and tried to get close to a few people, almost got lynched (seemingly gave up and admitted he hadn't posted well) and has followed you onto the easiest lynch in the game this morning (Matt).

Um didn't I point at Matt first ? Like 20mn after the lynch ? Here I'll refresh your memory

It's true that I held you while they beat the hell out of you. Sorry Bob. On the other hand thanks to Zak's good refreshing skills I'm still alive. Now I'll just leave that here :

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Bob votes zak for "for pretending like anyone would have actually cared that he "faked a posting restriction"". And yet, the only person who's read anything off that is Bob. Seems to me, wanting to kill off a reasonably strong player and scrabbling for an actual justification to do so. Also, jumping on an established wagon - his vote brought zak up to 3, clear leader. Not liking that play at all.
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Bobchillingworth

If Bob does die for his earlier message and ends up town I'll remember this.

[AdrienIer]

AdrienIer is just my best idea at the moment. I did a full re-read before the last post and will do one again.

Great !