So because Rowain doubles down you lock in your vote on Mattimeo?
I have to run.
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(August 5th, 2015, 06:01)novice Wrote: So because Rowain doubles down you lock in your vote on Mattimeo? This is why Jabbz shouldn't post at 4:00 in the morning. Lets pretend I only said the bolded stuff below, and I'll go to sleep now. (August 5th, 2015, 05:53)Jabbz Wrote: So first, it took me less than 2 seconds to find this. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pantheon. The definition you are using is 5th on the list. I'm using a rough version of the 3rd, and the first two have to deal with physical structures, so I figure it's ok to slum down to the third entry. Second, I have to make that goddamn greek and roman mythology I took my Junior year worth something, and this topic is one that we discussed while reading Ovid's Metamorphoses. Now I feel you're just doubling down, trying to bluster your way through an easy scum mistake, as a few seconds with google would have rendered this entire accusation on your part moot. PS. Sorry Matt :P (August 5th, 2015, 03:27)novice Wrote:(August 5th, 2015, 03:03)Gazglum Wrote: There's also the suggestion that Serdoa will be tracking the players who vote for or against torture, so maybe its the players who keep voting for torture who will end up getting killed or alignment switched. It was how I read Quote:Also, if you don't vote at all, you are considered to be against torturing and will be counted accordingly.: as Serdoa keeping track of those who don't want to torture vs those who do. But I guess on reread it's likely just referring to how the daily count will be judged. We'd obviously have to agree on the minimal vote thing in advance and make sure everybody behaved themselves. (August 5th, 2015, 03:52)AdrienIer Wrote: This is where you lose me. You're literally, in the same paragraph, telling everyone not to trust the torturer (yeah trusting cops is a bad idea) and asking the torturer to reveal himself. Perhaps you want the doctor to come forward too ? That might be useful you never know... I'm just thinking through what the possible risks of torture are, and was only suggesting the torturer come forward if their ability means they have to use it publicly anyway. As Novice pointed out though, if they don't have to announce their results immediately, it could be worth keeping them quiet I suppose. Trying to equate that to me wanting role reveals is a weak slur sir!
I think the pantheon argument is a silly one gentlemen. You are using the word differently, but I don't think that is a scum tell.
I don't think torture would alignment-flip the victim or torturer the first time its used, that would be a bastard move. I think its more likely we could get 2 uses out of it before it did something to screw us that much. Without much to go on, my gut says that scum's best play Day 1 would be to jump fairly eagerly on the pro-torture wagon and show enough activity that it won't be them who ends up under the thumbscrews. Trying to get town to damage itself. I also think that if they weren't given safe name claims, which is possible, they would be talking down MJW's name claim suggestion. So Mattimeo is playing perfectly normally, but kind of fits both those criteria. He's cool enough to offer himself as a sacrifice, suspecting it would be unliekly to be taken up. Gazglum; Wrote:Without much to go on, my gut says that scum's best play Day 1 would be to jump fairly eagerly on the pro-torture wagon and show enough activity that it won't be them who ends up under the thumbscrews. Trying to get town to damage itself. I do agree with that which makes zak's push for torturing so godlike. @Jabbz I can't follow your logic for voting Mattimeo (August 5th, 2015, 03:27)novice Wrote: Jabbz, BRick, I'm guessing you mean MJW is a masochist for volunteering for torture.  Guess I need to brush up on my BDSM terminology. I agree with Gazglum that there is no reason to play word games, it seems pretty obvious you're both genuine with your intended meaning instead of it being a slip of some sort. I agree that if we do torture, the torturer should stay in the shadows, even if he does get info, until he determines that the value of his info is worth more than keeping himself alive. So something like 2 clears, or a way to make a vote ht guaranteed scum, etc. I'm still not all too keen about using it without knowing the repercussions, but seeing as it's been placed so prominently among us, I am getting the feeling that not using it might put us at a slight disadvantage to whatever powers the gods have. I'll join in with a vote for Marcus Aurelius since he still has not posted, and maybe getting scanned/transmogrified will shake him awake or get us information to go on.
Rowain, we can use a day cop ability before we decide the first lynch. That's a pretty sweet deal. If I thought it was bad for town I would be arguing against it, regardless of my alignment.
Tomorrow, the torturer could be dead, and we've missed our chance. I don't think this was put in the game just for us to ignore, as an exercise in morality. Keep in mind, any cop result is bad for scum in a small game. Not just guilty results. And no, I can't guarantee that it won't backfire, but I still think it's a good play.
If you know what I mean.
(August 5th, 2015, 07:52)zakalwe Wrote: I don't think this was put in the game just for us to ignore, as an exercise in morality. It was put in with a unknown prize-tag. Since we have caught scum without any seers before I don't see the benefit as guaranteed big enough to pay off. (August 5th, 2015, 07:52)zakalwe Wrote: Keep in mind, any cop result is bad for scum in a small game. Not just guilty results. On principle yes. But what if being tortured enrages the tortured hero so much he choses the gods-side in future? |
