WW40 - Game Thread

[zakalwe]

Again you are being reckless with your torture votes, AdrienIer. In the words of Gazglum and Mattimeo,

As far as I see it, torture will work one of three ways.

1. torturing gives a random side effect
2. torture will give a pre-programmed side effect depending on which hero/God it is used on
3. torture side effects ramp up to become more anti-town over time

As I've said, I think the third is most likely, but we can't be sure yet.

I was thinking a combination of 2 and 3, especially with believing BRick's claim, but not so sure of that now that he's been proven to be lying.
Thus, we should completely ignore the fact that 3 is the more likely situation in favour of further testing to determine if 2 is feasible ^_^

I'd also like to reiterate my amusement that the myth of Kassandra played out faithfully, with everyone not believing her claims (up to the point where Hades jumped out of her corpse, of course, but we can't have everything correct in these historical reenactments, can we?)

So we're going to torture Mattimeo, and then lynch him regardless of the outcome? Why bother torturing him, then?

As much as I hate to admit it, zak's got it correct here. If the fear if that I'm asking for being tortured because I'm a Godfather-equivalent, why scan me at all? Either you want to torture me to get a read, after which you really shouldn't lynch me, or you think I'm the Godfather and shouldn't waste a torture on me.
Unless those proposing the double-up are doing it deliberately, to increase the torture count without it being remotely useful?

I couldn't spot any breadcrumbs from Mattimeo, btw.

[AdrienIer]

Well I'm pretty certain of MA's guilt, it's just a matter of avoiding a stupid mislynch. I just can't see anyone else who might've done it.

[zakalwe]

Town jailer + town doctor + town day cop does seem overpowered.

[novice]

So then, I'll come out and say that I think Adriener is the Torturer. IF he ain't town, he couldn't be wolf ... so maybe SK? That's my theory at least, that he is the torturer, I have no current read on his alignment, but tbh I was at first suspicious of him being a wolf until I later re-read Day 1 and saw that he was likely the torturer, due to adding info to the conversation that only a torturer could know (imho).

Why couldn't he be wolf?

I'm not 100% convinced that there is an SK, but MJW did mention it so I suppose it isn't impossible.

So how many percent convinced are you? Why are you postulating a SK in the first place?

[MJW (ya that one)]

I have no night actions and saw nothing.

Ideas:
1. The game cannot end because there's still another third party. It has to be novice then because then this game would have too much stuff in it.
2. No-kill gambit. Only Novice and Zak have what it takes to pull it off.
3. MA is a wolf and dropped his orders.
4. MA is banner with two-charges and is .

The only candidates are Zak, novice and MA. I don't think Novice is kill-able today. So the logical votes are MA and Zak.

I'll dump my vote on zakalwe zakalwe to make him claim.

Can someone remind me what MA's hero name is? I pretty sure he claimed it. Once zak claims I'll claim my name.

[MJW (ya that one)]

Zak, I consider lying about keywords to be hilariously aggressive so I really think he's incapable of pulling it off.

MA claimed first so him claiming banner would be very risky. So he's he could be legit and there could be two more scum. In which case the no-kill and the amount of power the village has makes sense. The village needs power to stop the large number of scum and in case a non-wolf gets killed today the wolfs can win by killing MA tonight (I'll bet that Serdoa told after being prodded by Zak that my 0.1 vote cannot save town in an even situation or they guessed after noticing the amount of power town had).

[novice]

Marcus claimed to be Melampous.

Ok, so I guess I have to be out with it now .... I would have agreed with Gazglum, after the night, that a DAY name reveal would have been best.

So yea, I'm the healiest person type of eversville.

My name is Melampous, and last night I protected Novice.

[novice]

No torture

[MJW (ya that one)]

Marcus claimed to be Melampous.

Ok, so I guess I have to be out with it now .... I would have agreed with Gazglum, after the night, that a DAY name reveal would have been best.

So yea, I'm the healiest person type of eversville.

My name is Melampous, and last night I protected Novice.

Okay.

I should remind myself that killing someone during torture would now be awesome for us because it would take us to an odd number of villagers so it would be an extra-lynch.

[novice]

With BRick as a goon and Lewwyn as a traitor name seer, the final mafia member must have nice powers. So we shouldn't dismiss the possibility of a godfather Jabbz.

Four scum seems excessive though in an 11 player game. Do you really believe that, MJW?