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(August 12th, 2015, 05:59)novice Wrote: (August 12th, 2015, 05:45)zakalwe Wrote: If we can't explain everything that's going on by Jabbz being the last scum, then lynching me before him is inherently risky. On the other hand, everything is supposedly accounted for if his story is true, so in that case you can afford to lynch him first. He says he's totally ok with it, too; so again, just take him up on that offer.
This is true. If Zak is town Jabbz is Medusa and there could still be a Zeus around. OTOH if Jabbz is town Zak is probably Zeus.
Jabbz
Your call, Adrien.
Take this for instance. You have clearly stated that if I'm town, Zak is Zues. Hence when I die and show town, Zak dies and town wins. As far as I'm concerned, town wins.
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Jabbz I think you have become a minion and I'm not going to trust you or what you said tomorrow. At least not entirely.
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Then you are throwing away the game. I have made enough solid arguments against Zakalwe, and he against me, that clearly one of us is lying. You want to argue that, in addition to my powers being changed, I became a minion, with a vote stopping and ability stopping power, due to torture. In addition to that, you have to believe that you have to believe that scum chose not to kill last night because reasons. That's quite a stretch. It is far and away more likely that I got a power from my torture, and used it on the person I suspected a large part of the game as being scummy. Then, lo and behold, WE HAD NO NIGHT KILL. That argument is sketchy as hell, and I hope its just you being manipulated by Zak, and not you being scum of some sort yourself, because if that's the case, we lose the game even when the rest of the townies kill Zak tomorrow.
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Oh, and I might also throw out that, were more than one person to vote to come to my side, I would be willing to switch, but I'm not willing to do it for only one person, and I haven't heard from MJW this morning, so I'm not sure where he stands. If he stands with me, and MA still stand with me, I would be willing to move over.
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This was your post after being tortured :
(August 8th, 2015, 14:15)Jabbz Wrote: Well that wasn't overly unexpected. As Perseus, I had the power to use my shield to redirect a night action from one player to another. It had two uses, neither of which had been burned prior to the torture. Now that power is gone. I guess as far as powers to lose it's not terrible, especially given my lack of a lean on anyone prior to the torture. I'll be looking back in depth at those who pushed the torture, though I'm not sure I'll get much information out of it. I'm currently trying to decide if this makes me less a target to scum or more, but we will see tonight I suppose.
You say that you lost your redirect power but don't mention the new power. Why did you think it was something important to hide ? Sorry if you already answered that before I may have missed it.
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I didn't answer because it was the only thing that kept me alive. I was assumed town, but I was also assumed powerless. This made me a non-priority target for scum, while leaving me with credibility as town and the ability to inhibit scum. It wasn't a hard decision.
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hmm ....
I guess in the end logic prevails ...
Jabzz
I guess we will find out what happens soon enough >_>
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(August 12th, 2015, 10:50)Jabbz Wrote: Then you are throwing away the game. I have made enough solid arguments against Zakalwe, and he against me, that clearly one of us is lying. You want to argue that, in addition to my powers being changed, I became a minion, with a vote stopping and ability stopping power, due to torture. In addition to that, you have to believe that you have to believe that scum chose not to kill last night because reasons. That's quite a stretch. It is far and away more likely that I got a power from my torture, and used it on the person I suspected a large part of the game as being scummy. Then, lo and behold, WE HAD NO NIGHT KILL. That argument is sketchy as hell, and I hope its just you being manipulated by Zak, and not you being scum of some sort yourself, because if that's the case, we lose the game even when the rest of the townies kill Zak tomorrow.
Another thing I want to add to this, is that adding the ability to, upon death, show as a hero when I'm actually scum/minion/traitor/etc would be beyond unbalancing. Do take that in consideration when I flip, and you decide who to lynch tomorrow.
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And you're sure there's nothing about your ability that would make townzak report that Medusa visited him?
I have to run.
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I was never told anything by Serdoa that mentioned Medusa. That was strictly my interpretation of my powers based on the mythos.
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