(September 24th, 2015, 22:09)Jabbz Wrote: Bacchus used IP Masking, basically ninja, before conducting the kill. Had Lewwyn not locked down Bacchus, two town would have confirmed that Bacchus did nothing during the night, yet Gaz would have died. At that point, the game would have broken wide fuckin open.
And I might have gotten Serdoa lynched and won. Lewwyn
But I'm happy I played it open. If I don't say a word I stumble as soon as I talk about pairs and number of powers. Claiming 3rd party after village learns that I have different system than them only leads to lynching me. The one-shot lynch immunity doesn't help in that case only confirm I'm scum.
BTW Writing Serdoas name in blue (village-color) in the PM to me was a big mistake.
I'm still surprised that neither zak nor Bacchus really moved against Serdoa despite me laying groundwork to accuse him day in day out. That Bacchus voted me instead was IMO a miscalculation.
My PM
Rowain - Lyncher
You are a grieving father. Your daughter, a scientist in your own footsteps, had the berth you eventually ended up filling. She was killed however during an “accident” while the mission was ramping up. You took her spot not out of a desire to see her dream fulfilled, but rather to make the man responsible for her death, Serdoa, pay for his inattention to detail that resulted in her death. When you took off, you weren’t sure how that would happen, but now with the chaos occurring on the ship, you think you have found a way.
You win only when Serdoa has been lynched, as you want to be responsible for his death.
During the chaos following the captain’s death, you were able to secure access to a Weighted Voting program. This sub-routine is used at night to provide additional weight to the users vote the following day. The use of this subroutine will result in a vote of 1.3, but this information will not be disclosed until the end of the day.
Because you were preparing to attempt “something” on Serdoa before the attack, you have additional tools at your disposal. Unlike the sub-routines, these are active until they are burned out.
Anchored. This provides protection for the user by preventing their pod from being jettisoned as the result of a lynching.
Hackproof. This reinforces the security guarding access to your pod, making it impossible for Earth First Liberationist members to kill you that night.
(September 25th, 2015, 14:02)Mardoc Wrote: Gah, Serdoa! Base your case on presumed symmetry from the GM? You're supposed to scumhunt, not outguess the GM. If I were GM, I'd have thrown in some asymmetry just for this exact possibility! Or maybe just modkill you!
Edit: Although...I suppose at the 24 hr mark, where most people are convinced of Bacchus and not talking, it might provide something to talk about. See if anyone bites, and base your ultimate decision on people's reaction rather than this so-called logic.
Maybe something has changed Mardoc, since I played the last time, but gathering who has which roles and try to make something of it, was never reason for a modkill IIRC. That is information you know as GM will be out in the open if you don't explicitly forbid to tell it. So you take counter-measures, as was done by Jabbz.
Also thanks for the game Jabbz. I had fun, but I'd say there were a few too many investigative roles and roles to fuck with those. As you stated, if Bacchus play N2 would have worked, town might very well have lost, just because they would not have killed him ever.
Serdoa's name was blue for a reason, I was aiming you as an anti-town. I didn't want you having to guess if he was scum or town, as that might make you more town friendly. You failed me *cry*
Yeah. As I stated somewhere else when I designed it it was for a larger game. I'm not sure those big games will happen again anytime soon though, too many people burned out from what I can tell. Oh well, just means next time I put something together I'll have a big and small game setup planned.
(September 26th, 2015, 13:23)Jabbz Wrote: Serdoa's name was blue for a reason, I was aiming you as an anti-town. I didn't want you having to guess if he was scum or town, as that might make you more town friendly. You failed me *cry*
To lynch one you need town off your back. I can't play anti-town, lie and hope to get support to lynch Serdoa. I have to avoid the lynch too.
If you really wanted me to play anti-town then you needed to give me an eternal lynch-immunity.
I just imagine right now what could have happened. D1 mislynch, N1 kill, D2 Rowain claims I'm scum via Background Check, I'm lynched, N2 another kill, D3 town tries to lynch Rowain (it doesn't state anywhere that he would leave the game I think), N3 another kill, D4 lynch Rowain, N4 another kill = total of 7 kills and scum wins without town ever really scumhunting except D1.
These 3rd party roles are interesting, but they can really backfire hard I think.
(September 26th, 2015, 14:58)Jowy Wrote: Easiest way to win as the lyncher is to claim info on your target.
A bit hard if the target claims he has redirected on you and another seer claims an innocent result.
@Serdoa
It doesn't say so in the PM but I asked for clarification and got that I would leave if you are lynched. At that point Jabbz had not yet decided what would happen if you were nightkilled.
I thought about using this lack of information as proof that you are scum (The GM has not thought about you getting nightkilled because you are scum) but decided this to be unsporting.
Lewwyn
I had fun, but I'd say there were a few too many investigative roles and roles to fuck with those. As you stated, if Bacchus play N2 would have worked, town might very well have lost, just because they would not have killed him ever.
