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This is gonna be good: von Adlercreutz and Taotao

Ok, so I was catching a slightly calmer moment at work today and decided to have a look at Civstats to see whether the turn had rolled. It had, and I noticed that REM whipped three times this turn, wonder when will the attack happen?
Anyway, had a brief look through the list and saw dtay first, Commodore second, us third and so on...
Hang on, that's quite a lead dtay has going there, wasn't Commodore ahead of him just a turn or a few ago?
...a 21p increase, that's quite a hefty increase, did he build a wonder or?
...he didn't, did he?
...ooh crap, he might've.
...
So, during my lunch break I get home, log into the game to check and...



The Great Wall has been built in a foreign land (but not China).
I'm guessing he's done it mostly to increase his gpp generation, but he'll also have some crazy great general spawns if ever he is attacked...
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(November 11th, 2015, 10:52)mackoti Wrote:
(November 11th, 2015, 08:22)ipecac Wrote:
(November 11th, 2015, 05:51)Old Harry Wrote: Ocean of tears list!

Seconded.


First we need a list of player which are active, or do we include the others too?

Include everyone in RB's user database. dancing
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(November 12th, 2015, 10:06)Thoth Wrote:
(November 11th, 2015, 10:52)mackoti Wrote:
(November 11th, 2015, 08:22)ipecac Wrote:
(November 11th, 2015, 05:51)Old Harry Wrote: Ocean of tears list!

Seconded.


First we need a list of player which are active, or do we include the others too?

Include everyone in RB's user database. dancing
I don't think we should go that far, but I tried writing down who's in currently ongoing / recently finished pb's (I'm thinking civ here, not ffh). Obviously mackoti could add anyone he wants or dismiss anyone he doesn't feel he knows enough about. This is also not a final list. Discuss who you want to see being put into a tier!

pb27
dtay
commodore
gavagai
bacchus
plako
krill
serdoa
noblehelium
adrienier
automated teller
molach
reallyevilmuffin
yuris125
cheaterhater
barteq
ichabod
retep
hitanykey
borsche
nyles standish
tsargon
grimace
elkad
thewannabe
donovan zoi

pb30
old harry
2metraninja
ot4e
dantski (too long since were active and pb30 not properly started)
v8mark (same as above)
greywolf (same as above?)
Alhazard
ipecac

pb29
the black sword
german joey
(brickastley)
haram
wetbandit
fenn
dreylin
jowy
scipio

pb28
whosit
mardoc

pb25
ruff_hi

pb18
boldly going nowhere
fintourist
williamlp
(novice)
(scooter)
pindicator
(Oxyphenbutazone)
spacetyrantxenu
(cyneheard)
(qgqqqq)
(dazedroyalty)
(azza)
(dhalphir)
(myki)
(hashoosh)
(caledorn)
(nakor)
(catwalk)

old realms beyond profiles that are still quite famous and possibly active but haven’t played in a long while
sullla
sevenspirits
regoarrarr
sunrise089
lordparkin
gaspar
(ceiliazul)
lewwyn
bigger
(twinkletoes)
(baii)
sian
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Nice job you done here tao.
I just cheked in game and tao is doing like 59gold turn which is a fair amount.his power is prety good as well.
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Next turn the great wonder is in(or 450 gold,becasue of that i started construction if get failwonder), i suggested some workers turn but you can change that but we need a fast conection and choping those forest will gave us much needed production in 2 cities with baracks.
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hey Tao i seen you logged in but didnt comment anithing, you dont have time or ....
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(November 13th, 2015, 10:47)mackoti Wrote: hey Tao i seen you logged in but didnt comment anithing, you dont have time or ....
Hi!
Yeah I logged in during my lunch break, but time flew away and I didn't have time to comment. (And the afternoon/evening has been very busy).

Great job on the wonder! thumbsup
I agree 100% about the road between Svartholm and Nummijärvi. Might speed up transit now, but can also be vital defensively if ever Serdoa gets frisky.
At first I much preferred the original city 5 location, but in the end I don't mind much either way. In the alternative location we get better value from that plains hill forest chop at least (we also get a shot at claiming one more forest from Serdoas city, but I think he'll chop it before we gain control of the tile. In the original spot it would've been great if we had gotten control of the forest in Sevastopols second ring (forking the two cities), but looking at DZs city I think it looks like the ikhanda has finished by now...
[speaking of DZ and culture it's quite easy to spot the library in Mondatta (which just expanded borders to third ring) and I would be kind of surprised if he didn't have one in the capital by now.]

Going through the cities I'm not quite sure why you in Svartholm put the sword first in the queue and didn't just restart the barracks? Have you changed your mind and think we need more units rather than a promotion on each?
In Virta I switched the granary back first in the queue (if REM would attack I want to be able to whip the archer to at least take down one more unit, but otherwise this city needs all the help it can in growing).
Oravainen is longing for some more production tiles. After the workers have finished the plantation I guess one could go to the hill 2W of city and start mining. Did you put a road-turn into the silk-tile? If so, another turn might be in order before continuing the started Revolahti cottage and then going to river plains hill (to chop-mine) as soon as construction is in.
In Pyhäjoki I'm not too fond of working the unimproved ghf. I'd rather run a scientist then as the city will crank out a GP eventually anyway. I wasn't sure if you had calculated that we needed the wealth hammers to reach construction on a certain turn or something (I guess 1f might make the difference on which turn the city grows as well), so I left things like they were for this turn.
Jutas I'm not sure about. At first I thought we should whip the settler next turn for overflow hammers, but now I'm not sure if we're too late with the settler for the value of it to be very high and we could be better of slow building that and saving pop/happy for cat-whips.
Pulkkila would be nice if it could get the marble improved, but that's not likely to happen anytime soon. 11h overflow from the work boat works out very nicely and I guess we'll see a double pop whip for a cat here asap.
In Alavo I was kind of tempted to squeeze in a worker first. The city will grow quicker than we can keep up with improvements and really needs more mines.

Worker action suggestions:
Kim finish Jutas plains hill mine.
Mel moves to iron and mine on his way north (plains hill next to Alavo and then stone quarry?).
Charlie and Andrea farm wheat, finish off iron mine and looks for things to chop.
Georgia can go on chop duty on tile you suggested (needs cover).
Hikaru continues road between Nummijärvi and Svartholm.
Bobbie mines grass hill shared between Alavo and Svartholm.
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I want barack to be a double whip, yes capitol will mine all hills.

About barack i want to double whip it but with max production in it so i wanted to work a turn at size 4 at barack.I think we need in concentrate getting units and that is what i was doing in pukas as well , gro city and double whip a barack.If you wanna do it without whip with improved tiles will take alot.
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i was considering whiping the workboat for a 42 overflow in pukila i just dont know the right time, next turn or swap back to sword and whip before we get construction.I was considering giving gems for silver to elkad so we to be sure we get the happines from silver...
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(November 14th, 2015, 01:59)mackoti Wrote: i was considering whiping the workboat for a 42 overflow in pukila i just dont know the right time, next turn or swap back to sword and whip before we get construction.I was considering giving gems for silver to elkad so we to be sure we get the happines from silver...
42 overflow? a workboat costs 25 food-hammers so we can't get more than 25h. Am I missing something?
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