[TECH] Pitboss 29 IT and Tech Issues Thread

[Haram]

Question: We never finished the vote on City Trades, it ended 3/4 yes:no with 2 votes remaining.
I was generously offered a city this turn in some arcane signaling attempt, and I thought it'd be very funny to accept it
However I figured I'd check in here for a ruling before getting the game back rolling.

The remaining votes were "whatever", so counted as abstain. As far as I remember, we also had real trades only, not arcane signalling.

Reload


Edit: ... or maybe you both could log in together and do a reverse trasaction.

[GermanJoey]

Jowy, if you read the first post of this thread it clearly states that city trades are banned. You've just unfairly gained a lot of information, and I think we need more than just a reload here.

[GermanJoey]

Hmm, I thought we'd voted down Arcane Signaling...

It says it's ok in the first post of this thread.

[Dreylin]

Hmmm, not sure where that came from. Here are the summaries I can find of the votes:

Diplo: real(3) / arcane(2)
City trades: yes(3) / no(4)
See starts: yes(7!) / no (0)
Tech cost scaling yes(4) / no (0)
Current ToW(1) / New ToW(3)

2 votes left.

Diplo: Real
Everything else : Abstain

Sorry for the late response.

Couldn't find a final vote, but we'd passed the threshold for Real Diplo.

[wetbandit]

We have this:

Diplomacy: "Pitboss-AI-diplo"

Real trades offers only.
You may not communicate using: chat box in diplomacy window, unit names, city names, outside communication, in game chat, anything else in this vein.
You may not gift units to another player.
City trades are now disabled by the mod (city names still visible).

And this:

Diplo Rules

You will be free to offer whatever sort of trade possible in the trade window you want, whether you mean for it to be real or symbolic is your prerogative. However, you accept the consequences if the other player accepts something you meant as symbolic. Since deciding what counts as a 'real' trade or not is a very fuzzy area to judge, banning unit trades (not in the window anyways) and city trades (now impossible to select into a trade offer) eliminates some of the most swingy options. Players can attempt to collude with the remaining options, again at their own risk of trades actually going through.

[GermanJoey]

When I sent the offer last night, I checked the first post of this thread, which details the rules for this game; I didn't go and tally a vote from 2 months ago.

[wetbandit]

When I sent the offer last night, I checked the first post of this thread, which details the rules for this game; I didn't go and tally a vote from 2 months ago.

Can you cite what you saw in the first post?

[GermanJoey]

We have this:

Diplomacy: "Pitboss-AI-diplo"

Real trades offers only.
You may not communicate using: chat box in diplomacy window, unit names, city names, outside communication, in game chat, anything else in this vein.
You may not gift units to another player.
City trades are now disabled by the mod (city names still visible).

And this:

Diplo Rules

You will be free to offer whatever sort of trade possible in the trade window you want, whether you mean for it to be real or symbolic is your prerogative. However, you accept the consequences if the other player accepts something you meant as symbolic. Since deciding what counts as a 'real' trade or not is a very fuzzy area to judge, banning unit trades (not in the window anyways) and city trades (now impossible to select into a trade offer) eliminates some of the most swingy options. Players can attempt to collude with the remaining options, again at their own risk of trades actually going through.

yes, this is exactly what I read last night.

[Jowy]

First post is just copy+paste from previous games. Some things there even contradict the post itself.

Anyway I was put on the spot where I had to accept or decline the offer before I could pause and ask about it. What I could dig up from our setup thread only had an incomplete vote.

Reload is fine by me. I don't mind not having the city, it wasn't really a good deal for me, I just accepted it for the fun factor of it :P

[GermanJoey]

When I sent the offer last night, I checked the first post of this thread, which details the rules for this game; I didn't go and tally a vote from 2 months ago.

Can you cite what you saw in the first post?

That you can offer whatever you want in the trade window, but as unit trades and city trades were banned that prevented opponents from accepting them.