I hope Serdoa and nOble dont start clock games here, that would be a shame for this game.
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This is gonna be good: von Adlercreutz and Taotao
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So we neeed to produce 3620 beakers in 11 turns of ga to be able to switch to emancipation in the end of the GA,right now we produce like 321 at max research and expenses are 175 g/turn from here vasalage will escape us like near 30, will get a CH so we can hope to drop 40 expenses so we will need to build some serious wealth.Luckily some nice prod cities will finish theyr forges and can help with that and our military is more then enough.
(December 8th, 2015, 08:12)mackoti Wrote: So we neeed to produce 3620 beakers in 11 turns of ga to be able to switch to emancipation in the end of the GA,right now we produce like 321 at max research and expenses are 175 g/turn from here vasalage will escape us like near 30, will get a CH so we can hope to drop 40 expenses so we will need to build some serious wealth.Luckily some nice prod cities will finish theyr forges and can help with that and our military is more then enough. Blimey, that sounds like a lot of wealth builds without checking up on it further. I'll do a stream of consciousness post here while logged in. Most things won't be that thought through, but here they go: - We're currently working 89 tiles that will get a commerce bonus in our GA. Apart from regular growth we also have two cities that will come out of revolt before the GA (Maersk and Mondatta) so we're not that far from our emancipation target. - Courthouses are good buildings as we get them cheap and have far more libraries than markets (unlike, say CH). In low production cities we need to start them now to have time to whip them before the GA. (and cities like Nummijärvi and Svartholm can 5-turn them. Not quite enough to make them pay back by the end of the GA, but not many a commerce off compared to building wealth) - Sometime after we adopt vassalage it'd be good to pump some CR2 swords for cheaper city attackers off boats than the knights. - as we're closing in on astro it'd be nice to set up some combos of 1 longbow, 1 worker, 1 settler and 1 half-built galley to get some quick colonization going. [could well imagine even having those threesomes on our very first exploring EIs as we know where there will be some kind of land (if we're really unlucky it could of course be the other continent or a peak tile we're seeing, but I doubt it)]. - Do we want windmills in cap and do we need them in Lapua? - If we're not in desperate need of units now, Lapua definitely should do a forge next [and preferably a colosseum before we get literature (which might be right after astro)] - we still have 1 flat grassland tile to cottage in Oravainen. - The Great Artist you saw was the first of it's kind and probably represents music. Ichabod was not the one who claimed it. - The Temple of Artemis was just built. Seems very early for that. Could it be Gav trying to generate a Great Prophet (I assume the free priest actually gives gpp, but as I generally avoid this wonder I don't know)?? - Yuri founded Christianity. We actually have a trade connection with him though we haven't met him, so he might be on our continent. 4 Great Prophets have been born so far so it might be a bulb. How did he generate the person though? Got a free spread of Confucianism, built a temple and ran a mixed gpp-pool?? - On the subject of religion we only see one city with Confu in it yet (mids-city Amondon) so it hasn't spread very well (2% of world pop) - REMs been lucky with a barb-city of warriors erupting next to where he razed a Commodore city earlier. - We've met Nyles Standish (up by Elkad/Commodore). What should we ask for open borders? (Nothing as he might have alpha and offer them for free when we spot his borders?) - I believe that Elkad (and NS) have researched alpha now and we're not longer in a monopoly situation offering those. - Commodores neighbours are propping him up against REM for all the good that do them. (Elkad gifts Iron, Horses and Silver while NS gifts Copper and Gems). Seems like REM might find other targets than us for a while yet...
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I Just done some math and in 8th turn of GA we will have banking.We want to mine and build a WS near our heroic epic city so we can work some hammers in piojokolaje or whatever the name.lets hope a religion sprean then we research mono and teo so we can get into teocracy as well.
I think at least 2 people are in ga , the number in research and prod icresed alot after i checked once.
A musiscian has born faraway, there are 3 people which got masive score increase:NoSER,krill, dtay so we might have a neighbour whith a GA in hand.So is very important to be sure all the time that Monadata cant be conquered, a GA bomb there will destroy all our work so we will defend that city well.Btw I seen no HA anywere at noble so they might not have HA.
(December 8th, 2015, 17:05)mackoti Wrote: i was thinking today and maybe beter make groznyy a production center, we can get 20-24 bse hammers with worksop we don have great porst for production.Honestly I'm not that fussed how we specialise Grozny. It only has 2 land tiles of its own. The rest it shares either with commerce-city Jutas (mostly flat grassland cottages) or GP-/production city Ural (horses, couple of grassland hills, watermill?). Might be that it'll start of mostly doing commerce (growing on shared cottages), but post-dikes (12 base hammers from water tiles) becomes a more production oriented hybrid. In general I don't see us being in caste that much apart from the occasional GA-spell, so workshops might not be as strong as we've lately been accustomed to, but of course there can be exceptions where they'll be good. More interesting I might find the question of how to specialise Zenyatta and Mondatta? Initial instincts had me pegging ex-cap Zenyatta as a commerce-city and Mondatta as a production powerhouse, but Zenyatta only has two villages that can't be shared and Mondatta has two silvers that will increase commerce by a lot so it might even be better to go the other way round (which would also give us a strong port city in the south...).
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(December 8th, 2015, 16:57)mackoti Wrote: lets hope a religion sprean then we research mono and teo so we can get into teocracy as well. I'm hoping for a religion spread as well (hopefully before the end of our GA), but theocrazy seems still a very long way from being useful. First off we need to spread the religion around. This would almost certainly means we need OR. Then there's the question what it'll give us considering we'll already have vassalage: With no barracks we'll go from 2->4xp. Easier to get the second promo, yes, but far from amazing benefits. With barracks we go 5->7xp. That's very poor returns. With barracks + stables we go 7->9xp. This is creeping up towards being interesting, but we still need to be in a war, use the units at the front, win, and then we may be able to do something interesting. Not worth it in my opinion. With barracks + stables + collosseum it goes 8->10xp. Now we're talking! Amphibious horses straight off the line. Very expensive infrastructure-wise though. Eventually this might make theo worth it, but I'm not even sure we're talking knights by this point and not cuirs or even cavalry. Drafts: still some way off, but might affect usefulness. Without barracks we go 1->2xp. Definitely useful, but how many ~sz8 cities without barracks will we be drafting anytime soon? With barracks 2->3xp. Useless...
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I was thinking about krill Tsargon war ,krill must used just Ha and this way he couldnt finish the job and he needed to wait for cats or to get more swords to the fight.Our war was very smoth executed and had everithing what need, I cant wait for GAge and escape from that 34 gold payed for unist form my experience with vaslage we will save 25-30 gold.
About teocracy is very good, but if we get a religion spread till GA start we can reserch mono as well eneter in OR and spread religion intensly, and at the Ga go teocracy as well so i keep finger crosed for some christian misioanry to arry in Nederland. If we get it even later in Ga we stil can convert and get OR to or after astro get meditation for a monastery or 2. |
