[TECH] Pitboss 29 IT and Tech Issues Thread

[The Black Sword]

I used to play, that if 2 or more players were fighting the same opponent (e.g. Me + Tsargon vs. Joey), the turn order between players fighting on the same side was irrelevant.

This is how it's played on RB too. So you and Tsargon have to play after GJ, me and Borsche have to play after Tsargon, I don't think there's any other constraint on us right now.

[GermanJoey]

No, that's not right. We share a front, so he must keep in order with Tsargon. Haram was the first to insist that I keep to my part of the split, so I'll ask him to do the same.

Turnsplits on this map will be complicated because everyone borders everyone else.

[Haram]

Joey, I am not going to respect your PM demand to play before TBS, Tsargon until there will be some external ruling to do so. I have literally zero interactions with both of them and it seems to me, that you are just going insane.

[GermanJoey]

maybe not yours, but certainly *my* troops have interactions with them. You can gain an unfair advantage by playing before and after they do. This is not a map where we have two fronts on two separate sides of one civ; there are places that have a dozen+ of each of our units within a 2-3 tile radius.

And I will refuse to play if you do not respect the turn order.

edit: do we really have to argue about how fucking turn splits work? jesus christ

[Dreylin]

I'm going to assume that we need some lurker involvement to solve this, and therefore recommend that you two stop posting here for a while since it seems to be making things worse. Also I need a pause this turn, thanks!

[Commodore]

I used to play, that if 2 or more players were fighting the same opponent (e.g. Me + Tsargon vs. Joey), the turn order between players fighting on the same side was irrelevant.

This is how it's played on RB too. So you and Tsargon have to play after GJ, me and Borsche have to play after Tsargon, I don't think there's any other constraint on us right now.

This is it, typically, with the additional wrinkle that ideally one should strive to play one's turn all in one go; if not with the fiddly micro tile swapping then at least in the unit movements. So A goes first, then either B or C, then C or B, etc. The problem comes in if B plays some, then C plays some, then B takes advantage of C's moves to play some more, etc, etc.

[BRickAstley]

I used to play, that if 2 or more players were fighting the same opponent (e.g. Me + Tsargon vs. Joey), the turn order between players fighting on the same side was irrelevant.

This is how it's played on RB too. So you and Tsargon have to play after GJ, me and Borsche have to play after Tsargon, I don't think there's any other constraint on us right now.

This is it, typically, with the additional wrinkle that ideally one should strive to play one's turn all in one go; if not with the fiddly micro tile swapping then at least in the unit movements. So A goes first, then either B or C, then C or B, etc. The problem comes in if B plays some, then C plays some, then B takes advantage of C's moves to play some more, etc, etc.

I can second that this seems to be a logical way to handle things, though the overall picture is muddled in my mind. Can someone post exactly who is at war with who right now, including who is first in each of those war splits? I think the game is far enough along that none of that is spoiler information.

[The Black Sword]

My quote was correct at the time of posting. GJ and Tsargon are now at peace, I haven't logged in yet on the current turn, I don't know if any other changes have occurred.

So, end of last turn GJ -> Haram was one turn split, Tsargon -> TBS, Borsche was the other.

Obviously if you are at peace and intend to declare war on someone it is your responsibility to ensure you don't double move them on the turn you declare. Barring some arcane situation, this is the main rule to abide by IMO, with Commodore's caveat the other.

[Haram]

I used to play, that if 2 or more players were fighting the same opponent (e.g. Me + Tsargon vs. Joey), the turn order between players fighting on the same side was irrelevant.

This is how it's played on RB too. So you and Tsargon have to play after GJ, me and Borsche have to play after Tsargon, I don't think there's any other constraint on us right now.

This is it, typically, with the additional wrinkle that ideally one should strive to play one's turn all in one go; if not with the fiddly micro tile swapping then at least in the unit movements. So A goes first, then either B or C, then C or B, etc. The problem comes in if B plays some, then C plays some, then B takes advantage of C's moves to play some more, etc, etc.

I'm ok with such a solution, that I will play before or after TBS/Tsargon, but not log in on both sides of their turns.

... and it seems to me, that you are just going insane.

Sorry for this part, it was unnecessary.

[GermanJoey]

... and it seems to me, that you are just going insane.

Sorry for this part, it was unnecessary.

You know exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm really not in the mood to argue, so I'll just re-wardec Tsargon this turn just to lock the turn order and leave no room for ambiguity. Tsargon -> Me -> Haram.