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(March 1st, 2016, 06:09)ipecac Wrote: Quote: Arthurian myth has nothing to do with the church in my mind - indeed the wizardry of merlin would have made it rather against their teachings.
There is the part about the Holy Grail.
Quote:But that is 2 moves away from paladin - he is associated with the church and religion, and Rome is a centre of religion (although Italy had very little impact in this era really) whereas everything else is one move away in my mind. A paladin is associated with the church/religion, rides a horse and slays dragons.
To my mind stating Rome because it is associated with religion and the church is like saying hand because a paladin is a person and has a hand.
Granted, it's 2 moves away but I consider Paladin instead of Knight to point more strongly towards religion (though I'd be more comfortable with 'Crusader' in that case).
Quote: We all seem happy with horse and church though, shall we start pointing to them?
We're all fine with CHURCH, though Q preferred as the others ROME and one of HORSE/DRAGON. I'm okay with pointing to DRAGON if you guys all agree on it (D&D style fantasy is not my thing).
Well we can point to church then? I'm not a big DD fan but Knights in all folklore and fantasies slay dragons, albeit they are not often referred to as Paladins. I am getting that connection to be from a paladin being a religious knight. My order would have been horse/church/dragon personally.
True there is the holy grail stuff but that again is a few moves away from linking to Rome.
I can't see any things that would be excluded by going paladin over knight.
Other thought that just came to me - never was a zelda player but link from the zelda games could probably be called a knight, however a stretch to call him a paladin, unless someone who has played a few knows differently?
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As I said, I like Horse, Dragon and Church, I feel like Paladin is more related to Church because they have religious connotations but, through D&D are not too regarded as christian. And Link is in no way, shape, or form anything like a knight.
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point to CHURCH
And yeah, LINK isn't in anyway related to Paladin.
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Can we point to horse too?
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I'd rather point to Dragon than Horse.
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I relate Rome to religion in the Medieval era more strongly than it seems most do here, with the two inextricable. I don't know the exact definition of Paladin, but I was under the impression it was a term very closely related to the Catholic religion during this period.
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(March 1st, 2016, 18:12)Qgqqqqq Wrote: I relate Rome to religion in the Medieval era more strongly than it seems most do here, with the two inextricable. I don't know the exact definition of Paladin, but I was under the impression it was a term very closely related to the Catholic religion during this period.
I relate Rome to religion, but because it is 2 moves from paladin I think it unlikely to be in the three things. I have never heard a paladin be explicitly related to Catholicism though.
Why do you feel it is not horse?
DC and I want horse/dragon. (and DV too!)
QG wants dragon/Rome. Ipecac wanted Rome and one of dragon/horse it seems.
Shall we point dragon as we are more or less all decided on that?
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Because I don't associate them in my mind? Maybe because the model in FFH is dismounted, and their horses are brought up infrequently in tOOtS.
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