Up the Palace ... again! [SPOILERS]

[gingereagle1969]

Theme tune

[gingereagle1969]

Yeah, can't be bothered to create a new list for my Workers & Units, so it's a Crystal Palace theme ... again!

For city names, I'll use places I've lived &/or worked, and the surrounding areas; so if you're from Sarf (South) London, Sussex &/or Kent you should recognise them:

Croydon
Addiscombe
Elmers End
Beckenham
Bromley
West Wickham
Carshalton
Bognor Regis*
Chichester
Selsey*
Billingshurst
Ramsgate*
Margate*
Broadstairs*
Cliftonville*
Sandwich*
Deal*
Dover*
Canterbury
Chatham*
Gillingham
Rochester*
Herne Bay*
Whitstable*

Hopefully i'll get to use all 25

*these will be used for coastal cities (if there is a coastline)

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

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Timestamp: 2016-03-31 20:19:40 UTC, IP: 90.203.177.30

You have 10 points

7: FIN, EXP
6: India
5: Inca, CRE
4: IMP, ORG, HRE
3: SPI, IND, Zulu, Sumeria
2: CHA, AGG, PHI, Ottomans/Maya/Byzantium (with War ellie ban)
1: Civs that start with Agriculture Tech unless otherwise stated, Greece/Rome
0: America, Native America, Civs without agri not already stated
-1: PRO arabia, germany, celts

Please post picks in threads, unless major objections I feel that duplicates should be allowed within reason, because quite a few civs have specific point costs to try to open up the field from the usual suspects.

Map taster info - fully hand crafted. SMALL 40x40 (based off small doughnut script if you wish to generate a map that size) VERY rich in resources. Stone/Marble are present but not easily reached early. Highly balanced but not mirrored/duplicated. FLAT map. IMMORTAL difficulty (it is very rich!) Moderate amount of water, but you could easily get away without a navy. GLH NOT banned. Scout starts for all.

As per your choices, no barbs, quick speed

Unusual tiles note - to spice up naval encounters, there are a few jungle/forest tiles hidden in the seas - these will give a defense bonus. Think of them as rich but dangerous to attack into lagoons, or places on the high sea that are rather dangerous.

You're player 3!

Here's your start - fogazing should be treated with caution, but the map is unlikely to change tbh.

Have fun and good luck!

[gingereagle1969]

I've got a few combinations i'm looking at; all the leaders kind of fit with the Crystal Palace nickname "The Eagles" which will appear in my Civ as the Eagle Empire (which yes can be misread/spoken as "Evil Empire" lol).

Currently mulling over:

1. Catherine (9) of Babylon (1) - Imperial/Creative with improved Archers for the UU (Bowmen) - Fast production of settlers will make for REX-ing and the Culture bonus will negate the need for monuments to grab land points quickly! And those Bowmen will be great defenders early on, especially the bonus vs Melee. Was considering teching Hunting -> Archery, for the Bowmen, first anyway, so those Deer are superb to see ... please don't remove them!

2. Bismarck (10) of Mali (0) - Expansive/Industrious with improved Archers for the UU (Skirmishers) plus the UB (Mint) is great synergy for Industrious - again Hunting -> Archery will be first priority, the map confirms it, to get those Skirmishers out. But is the extra possible first strike better than the Melee bonus? Fast production of Workers will mean I'll get through my list quickly, and have idlers .. again.

3. Huayna Capac (10) of Mali (0) - Financial/Industrious - same arguments for Bismarck really with Commerce bonus over fast production of Workers. Actually this last one doesn't really fit with the Eagle, so, out of petulance, I may discard this option.

You know what? I think I've just talked myself into taking Cathy of Babylon

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

I've got a few combinations i'm looking at; all the leaders kind of fit with the Crystal Palace nickname "The Eagles" which will appear in my Civ as the Eagle Empire (which yes can be misread/spoken as "Evil Empire" lol).

Currently mulling over:

1. Catherine (9) of Babylon (1) - Imperial/Creative with improved Archers for the UU (Bowmen) - Fast production of settlers will make for REX-ing and the Culture bonus will negate the need for monuments to grab land points quickly! And those Bowmen will be great defenders early on, especially the bonus vs Melee. Was considering teching Hunting -> Archery, for the Bowmen, first anyway, so those Deer are superb to see ... please don't remove them!

2. Bismarck (10) of Mali (0) - Expansive/Industrious with improved Archers for the UU (Skirmishers) plus the UB (Mint) is great synergy for Industrious - again Hunting -> Archery will be first priority, the map confirms it, to get those Skirmishers out. But is the extra possible first strike better than the Melee bonus? Fast production of Workers will mean I'll get through my list quickly, and have idlers .. again.

3. Huayna Capac (10) of Mali (0) - Financial/Industrious - same arguments for Bismarck really with Commerce bonus over fast production of Workers. Actually this last one doesn't really fit with the Eagle, so, out of petulance, I may discard this option.

You know what? I think I've just talked myself into taking Cathy of Babylon

Quick choice! Any sim plans? What to improve first?

[gingereagle1969]

Quick choice! Any sim plans? What to improve first?

Looking at that start, I'll settle in place and grow on the Floodplains. Well, not initially as I'll build a Worker first, while teching Hunting. As I'll get the BFC quickly, the Worker will build a Rice(?) Farm if Hunting isn't in, otherwise it's a Deer Camp; worst case scenario, he builds a Road. It may be risky, but I'll build a 2nd Worker; unless Archery is quick and then I'll let the city grow on a Bowman .. or two ... then a Settler

In the meantime, the Scout will head .. eeny, meeny, miny, moe .. west! If he falls into the water, let's hope he can swim.

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

Quick choice! Any sim plans? What to improve first?

Looking at that start, I'll settle in place and grow on the Floodplains. Well, not initially as I'll build a Worker first, while teching Hunting. As I'll get the BFC quickly, the Worker will build a Rice(?) Farm if Hunting isn't in, otherwise it's a Deer Camp; worst case scenario, he builds a Road. It may be risky, but I'll build a 2nd Worker; unless Archery is quick and then I'll let the city grow.

In the meantime, the Scout will head .. eeny, meeny, miny, moe .. west! If he falls into the water, let's hope he can swim.

It's corn (non standard placement admittedly)

[gingereagle1969]

Turn 0 - 4000BC

Did I make the right choice? Should i have wasted a point and gone with Mali instead of babylon?Only time will tell, I guess.

Settled in place (Croydon*) as mooted earlier. A Hill city for Bowmen is awesome! Going with a Worker first. And set the tech tree for Hunting -> Archery. Let's get those super Archers up ASAP! Hunting is a given tech as those Deer will be within my culture very soon!

Hmm .. started with a Scout (not Babylon's usual start unit). Calling him Ian Wright! Sent him 2N1W as the Forest/Jungle/Hill will hamper his advance westwards.

*name is derived from "Cro Denu" which means Saffron Valley .. would've worked better if I happened to have Spices around instead of Dyes, but saffron dyes food yellow so hey-ho!

[gingereagle1969]

Turn 1 - 3940BC (Yes, I'm going to post every turn! )

Was going to say: Not much to report - Ian Wright moved 1N2W into a strip of land heading northwest, wonder where it leads?

However, borders popped at end of turn so I can already see a couple (or 6!) possible city sites:

[ReallyEvilMuffin]

Turn 1 - 3940BC (Yes, I'm going to post every turn! )

Was going to say: Not much to report - Ian Wright moved 1n2W into a strip of land heading northwest, wonder where it leads?

However, borders popped at end of turn so I can already see a couple (or 6!) possible city sites:

There are certainly no *right* city sites on this map - so much choice!