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Up the Palace ... again! [SPOILERS]

Turn 98 - 740AD

Pardew & Pulis: put a turn into Desert Fort @ Sandwich.
Holloway & Freedman: moved onto unused Grassland between Canterbury, Chatham & Ramsgate & started a Fort.
Burley & Hart: changed direction to join Pardew & Pulis.
Warnock & Taylor: put a turn into Jungle Chop/Plantation near Rochester site.
Dowie & Francis: moving to Forested Hill @ Sandwich ready to Chop/Mine.
Bruce & Lombardo: moved onto Forested Grassland @ Croydon ready to Chop/Cottage.
Bassett & Smith, A: moved onto unusable Grassland Iron tile & started a Fort.
Coppell & Mullery: moved onto Forested Grassland @ Canterbury ready to Chop/Cottage.
Kember & Gradi: started Forest Chop/Cottage @ Selsey.
Venables & Allison: finished Jungle Chop/Cottage @ Croydon.
Head & Graham: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Margate.
Rowe & Smith, G: finished Desert Fort @ Margate.

Clive Allen (Spear) joins squad and fortifies Chatham.
Chris Armstrong (Spear) joins squad and fortifies Canterbury.

Monarchy finished at end of turn; will revolt to Hereditary Rule while Code of Laws finishes. Should be able to just squeeze in Feudalism in before GA ends.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Turn 99 -770AD

Pardew & Pulis: finished Desert Fort @ Sandwich/Croydon.
Holloway & Freedman: put a turn into Grassland Fort @ Canterbury/Chatham/Ramsgate.
Burley & Hart: moved onto Forested Hill @ Croydon ready to Chop/Mine.
Warnock & Taylor: put a turn into Jungle Chop/Plantation near Rochester site.
Dowie & Francis: started Forest Chop/Mine @ Sandwich.
Bruce & Lombardo: started Forest Chop/Cottage @ Croydon.
Bassett & Smith, A: put a turn into Grassland Iron Fort @ Selsey.
Coppell & Mullery: started Forest Chop/Cottage @ Canterbury.
Kember & Gradi: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Selsey.
Venables & Allison: moved onto Forested Plain near Rochester site ready to Chop/Cottage.
Head & Graham: moving to Bognor area.
Rowe & Smith, G: moving to Bognor/Chichester area.

Settle Rochester this turn; took Crabs from Bognor [minus Maoi bonus frown]

Stan Collymore (Spear) joins the squad & heads to Rochester with Mariappa.
Paul Dickov (Spear) joins the squad and heads to Ramsgate with Armstrong.
Kagisho Dijgacoi (Spear) joins the squad and fortifies Selsey.
Fan Zhiyi (Bow) joins the squad and fortifies Dover.
Jon Fashanu (Spear) joins the squad and fortifies Sandwich.
Hermann Heidrarsson (Spear) joins the squad and forties Chatham.

At this rate I'm going to need the U21s squad & Eagles Ladies squad names .. rolf
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Turn 100 - 800AD

Pardew & Pulis: seems they didn't finish the Desert Fort @ Sandwich/Croydon last turn huh .. it is now.
Holloway & Freedman: put a turn into Grassland Fort @ Canterbury/Chatham/Ramsgate.
Burley & Hart: started onto Forest Chop/Mine @ Croydon.
Warnock & Taylor: finished Banana Plantation @ Rochester.
Dowie & Francis: put a turn into Forest Chop/Mine @ Sandwich.
Bruce & Lombardo: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Croydon.
Bassett & Smith, A: put a turn into Grassland Iron Fort @ Selsey.
Coppell & Mullery: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Canterbury.
Kember & Gradi: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Selsey.
Venables & Allison: started Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester.
Head & Graham: en route to Bognor area.
Rowe & Smith, G: en route to Bognor/Chichester area.

Eddie McGoldrick (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Canterbury.
George Ndah (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Ramsgate.
Clinton Morrison (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Margate.
Victor Moses (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chatham.
Vince Hilaire (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chichester.

10 names left on my list; U21s, Ladies or players from the 60s and before?
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Turn 101 - 820AD

Dear viewer, i regret to advise that the glorious Eagle Empire is at war! Adrien, possibly still smarting from a short skirmish we had something like an eon ago, has decided to send his Knights & other units over the border for an excursion. Two brave Knights, I'll call him Sir Barry & Sir Paul as Adrien can't be bothered, brutally attacked Yannick Bolasie & Kenny Sansom as they were idly watching over workers Dave Bassett & Alan Smith. At least Bolasie (Horse Archer) managed to get his attacker down to 55% health ... hurrah!! Sadly Sansom (Chariot) merely scratched his only doing 12% damage .. boo!! Bassett & Smith were captured (at least I no longer have to pay their wages.) OK, both Knights had odds in excess of 90%, but what the hell is this?

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How can he win with those odds!! Lucky, lucky bar-steward!! EDIT: just noticed he attacked with 2 Galleys .. but still!!

In retaliation, Wayne Hennessey (Bow) attacked & killed his Scout .. spiteful, eh? rolf

Pardew & Pulis: moved to Wine @ Sandwich & started a Winery (surely it's Grapes first??)
Holloway & Freedman: moving to Croydon & away from the Western Front @ Canterbury.
Burley & Hart: put a turn into Forest Chop/Mine @ Croydon.
Warnock & Taylor: moved onto Forested Grassland @ Rochester ready to Chop/Cottage.
Dowie & Francis: finished Forest Chop/Mine @ Sandwich.
Bruce & Lombardo: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Croydon.
Bassett & Smith, A: DEAD
Coppell & Mullery: moving to Croydon & away from the Western Front @ Canterbury.
Kember & Gradi: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Chichester - well that's where the Chop ended up.
Venables & Allison: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester.
Head & Graham: arrived at Bognor area.
Rowe & Smith, G: arrived at Bognor/Chichester area & started a Forest Chop/Cottage.

Tony Popovic (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Canterbury.
Aki Riihilahti (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chatham.
Wayne Routledge (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Croydon.
Neil Shipperley (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Bognor.
Andy Thorn (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Dover.
Paul Warhurst (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Sandwich.
Ray Wilkins (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Deal.
Eric Young (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chichester.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Turn 102 - 840AD

Well that's just pathetic Adrien! Killing a mere Work-Boat?? WAR CRIME!!!!!

The coward has side-stepped Chichester & has not pillaged any tiles. Bugger .. he's going for Ramsgate.

I've racked up the tech-rate to finish Feudalism this turn. Next turn will se the last round of Spears .. Longbows from now on! And I have 59g left!!

Pardew & Pulis: finished Winery @ Sandwich.
Holloway & Freedman: nearly @ Croydon.
Burley & Hart: finished Forest Chop/Mine @ Croydon.
Warnock & Taylor: moved onto Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester.
Dowie & Francis: moving to Rochester.
Bruce & Lombardo: moving to Rochester.
Bassett & Smith, A: DEAD
Coppell & Mullery: reached Chatham.
Kember & Gradi: moved further away from Northern Front and started a Forest Chop/Cottage @ Chichester.
Venables & Allison: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester - Walls up!!
Head & Graham: put a turn into a Forest Chop/Mine @ Bognor.
Rowe & Smith, G: put a turn into a Forest Chop/Cottage @ Bognor/Chichester.

Darren Ambrose (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Canterbury.
Gabor Kiraly (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chatham. (I'd forgotten he did a stint in goal for Palace)
Jonny Williams (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Croydon.
Samantha Saint (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Bognor. (Here come the girls!!)
Chanelle Yardley (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Selsey.
Charlotte ferguson (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Dover.
Alex Elson (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Deal.
Katy Morris (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chichester.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Turn 103 - 860AD

Looks like Canterbury's about to fall, and with it access to Gems:

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2 Spears survived with promos and I've whipped a Longbow to greet him next turn. Got a great general out of the fight, but so did he; sending it to Chatham.

EDIT: I'm calling FOUL!! Just looked at the Combat log. How can he possibly win with just over 30% odds?!?!? I suspect someone's reloading the turn!!!!

Pardew & Pulis: moving to Rochester.
Holloway & Freedman: moving to Bognor.
Burley & Hart: moved onto a Hill between Sandwich & Rochester ready to build a Fort..
Warnock & Taylor: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester.
Dowie & Francis: moving to Rochester.
Bruce & Lombardo: joined Burley & Hart.
Bassett & Smith, A: DEAD
Coppell & Mullery: moving to Bognor/Chichester.
Kember & Gradi: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Chichester.
Venables & Allison: moved to Forested Grassland @ Rochester ready to Chop/Cottage.
Head & Graham: put a turn into a Forest Chop/Mine @ Bognor.
Rowe & Smith, G: finished Forest Chop/Cottage @ Bognor/Chichester.

Lexie Spokes (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Croydon.
Sarah jones (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Sandwich.
Kelsey Zalimeni (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Margate.
Fran Ali (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Deal.
Leanne Bell (Spear) joins squad & fortifies Chichester.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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(June 24th, 2016, 13:05)gingereagle1969 Wrote: EDIT: I'm calling FOUL!! Just looked at the Combat log. How can he possibly win with just over 30% odds?!?!? I suspect someone's reloading the turn!!!!

This is a serious accusation and probably a bit rash considering just one turn and Adrien having no hints of doubt reported in previous games.

Also, look at the log again; he attacked with each of his Knights in succession then sent in the Skirms, there's nothing there that suggests gaming the RNG. Sometimes bad results happen, and while the initial combats may have been at 30%, the later should have improved as the Fortification bonus dropped. Likely he also sent lower-promo Knights in first since chances were he was going to lose even the high-promo.

Not saying it isn't disappointing / frustrating to see a log like this, but you'll need more evidence to convince anyone else this wasn't just standard deviation.
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(June 24th, 2016, 14:04)Dreylin Wrote: This is a serious accusation and probably a bit rash considering just one turn and Adrien having no hints of doubt reported in previous games.

Also, look at the log again; he attacked with each of his Knights in succession then sent in the Skirms, there's nothing there that suggests gaming the RNG. Sometimes bad results happen, and while the initial combats may have been at 30%, the later should have improved as the Fortification bonus dropped. Likely he also sent lower-promo Knights in first since chances were he was going to lose even the high-promo.

Not saying it isn't disappointing / frustrating to see a log like this, but you'll need more evidence to convince anyone else this wasn't just standard deviation.


Here's the first fight:

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And the 2nd:

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he lost the 3rd with the same odds, then won the 4th with slightly higher odds.

he's either very, very lucky .. or something else.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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Note that the game will have been set up to preserve Seed on Reload, so he can't keep reloading between combats until he gets a good result, and there are limited ways of incrementing the seed otherwise making it more unlikely that he's doing it. There's not even any difference in promos, they both read as C1-Shock Knights as you'd expect from a standard attack.

Bad/Good rolls happen sometimes, I don't think that one set of combat results can be used as evidence one way or another; particularly as concerns someone with no previous question marks against them (as far as I know).
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Turn 104 - 880AD

OK, Canterbury's finally fallen. Adrien has 7 Knights, 2 Skirmishers & a Great General Spear he's moved up. The Longbow I built at end of last turn faced 3 foes; killed a Knight & a Skirmisher (his jammy luck didn't hold with odds of 3% lol) before falling to a 2nd Knight!

Selsey was attacked this turn too; surprised he didn't take it as i had a full-health horse Archer left with 3 hero Spears who all gained promotions. As I can't whip a Longbow there, a Spear will have to do, but I think I can say goodbye to the Silver shortly.

Jade Davenport (Spear) was the one to gain the promotion and fortifies Selsey.
Stephanie Mann (Spear) joins the squad & fortifies Dover.
Pamela McRoberts (Spear) joins the squad & fortifies Margate.
Alma Donohoe (Longbow) joins the squad & fortifies Chichester.
Leesa Haydock (Longbow) joins the squad & fortifies Croydon.
Freya Holdaway (Longbow) joins the squad & fortifies Ramsgate.
Angela Kiobel (Longbow) joins the squad & fortifies Bognor.
Gemma Bryan (Longbow) joins the squad & fortifies Rochester.

Pardew & Pulis: reached Forested Grassland @ Rochester ready to Chop/Cottage.
Holloway & Freedman: reached Head & Graham.
Burley & Hart: put a turn into Hill Fort between Sandwich & Rochester.
Warnock & Taylor: moves to join Venables & Allison on Forested Grassland @ Rochester ready to help Chop/Cottage.
Dowie & Francis: joins Pardew & Pulis on Forested Grassland @ Rochester ready to help Chop/Cottage.
Bruce & Lombardo: put a turn into Hill Fort between Sandwich & Rochester.
Bassett & Smith, A: DEAD
Coppell & Mullery: reached Bognor.
Kember & Gradi: moved to Forested Grassland @ Chichester ready to Chop/Cottage.
Venables & Allison: put a turn into Forest Chop/Cottage @ Rochester.
Head & Graham: finished Forest Chop/Mine @ Bognor.
Rowe & Smith, G: joins Kember & Gradi on Forested Grassland @ Chichester ready to help Chop/Cottage.
PBEM12 - Shaka of Inca [6/6*] PBEM18 (Apps) - Augustus of China [4/4*] PBEM31 - Hannibal of Greece [jnt2-4/5*] PBEM72 - Willem of Oranje - Dutch [3/4*] PBEM74A -Catherine of Babylon [4/4][*ended early]
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