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(July 7th, 2016, 03:14)novice Wrote: Another take on Gazglum though, is that he is one I imagine would love another chance of playing scum. Would you agree, Gazglum? If you had been given the option of choosing scum in this game, would you have?
Yes I would have.
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(July 7th, 2016, 03:11)Lewwyn Wrote: (July 7th, 2016, 02:39)zakalwe Wrote: To comment some more on Meiz, I don't particularly suspect him, but he seems like a logical suspect for Psilly. And Gazglum makes a better case against Meiz than Psilly did against Lewwyn or AdrienIer.
Wait why would Psilly logically go for Meiz?
Somebody who is quietly lurking while he catches the heat. In any case, I was pondering earlier who Psilly "ought" to be suspecting, considering that I didn't like Psilly's cases against you and Adrien, and Meiz and Gazglum came to mind as "logical" suspects. And maybe the two new players. Just my subjective opinion, though.
If you know what I mean.
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(July 6th, 2016, 22:40)Lewwyn Wrote: Actually that makes me curious:
(July 6th, 2016, 11:12)Rowain Wrote: Current discard claims:
1. Prometheus - Vanilla Townie; ??????
2. AdrienIer - Hider; 1 shot vig
3. Jkaen - Hider; Vanilla Townie
4. Lewwyn - Vanilla Townie; Mafia Goon
5. Meiz - One-shot Vigilante; Mafia Goon
6. Psillycyber - One-shot Vigilante; Vanilla Townie
7. Dp101 - Mafia Lover; Hider
8. Zakalwe - One-shot Governor; Mafia Doctor
9. Gazglum - Doctor; One-shot Vigilante
10. Rowain - Vanilla Townie; One-shot Governor
11. Fenn - Backup Doctor; Enabler
12. Novice - Mafia Godfather; Vanilla Townie
Jkaen, you keep saying 5 people claimed scum discards. I only see three. Me Meiz and Zak. Novice and DP have not claimed scum discards, those have literally been displayed as having actually been discarded. They can't be lying about them. So in fact there are only 3 claimed scum discards. Hardly the 5 you kept talking about. Do you still feel that its anomalous?
If everybody is telling the truth 5 scum roles were discarded, which seems a high proportion. The fact that I know for sure 2 of those are telling the truth doesn't affect the stats
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(July 7th, 2016, 03:53)zakalwe Wrote: (July 7th, 2016, 03:11)Lewwyn Wrote: (July 7th, 2016, 02:39)zakalwe Wrote: To comment some more on Meiz, I don't particularly suspect him, but he seems like a logical suspect for Psilly. And Gazglum makes a better case against Meiz than Psilly did against Lewwyn or AdrienIer.
Wait why would Psilly logically go for Meiz?
Somebody who is quietly lurking while he catches the heat. In any case, I was pondering earlier who Psilly "ought" to be suspecting, considering that I didn't like Psilly's cases against you and Adrien, and Meiz and Gazglum came to mind as "logical" suspects. And maybe the two new players. Just my subjective opinion, though.
Okay you're going to have to reorient this for me. Are you saying that Village Psilly logically ought to be making cases against Meiz and Gaz then? Or as scum? Does that mean you suspect Gaz and Meiz to be scummy or you just think Village Psilly would be more likely to suspect them?
Not trying to be purposefully obtuse, just clarifying.
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(July 7th, 2016, 04:06)Jkaen Wrote: (July 6th, 2016, 22:40)Lewwyn Wrote: Actually that makes me curious:
(July 6th, 2016, 11:12)Rowain Wrote: Current discard claims:
1. Prometheus - Vanilla Townie; ??????
2. AdrienIer - Hider; 1 shot vig
3. Jkaen - Hider; Vanilla Townie
4. Lewwyn - Vanilla Townie; Mafia Goon
5. Meiz - One-shot Vigilante; Mafia Goon
6. Psillycyber - One-shot Vigilante; Vanilla Townie
7. Dp101 - Mafia Lover; Hider
8. Zakalwe - One-shot Governor; Mafia Doctor
9. Gazglum - Doctor; One-shot Vigilante
10. Rowain - Vanilla Townie; One-shot Governor
11. Fenn - Backup Doctor; Enabler
12. Novice - Mafia Godfather; Vanilla Townie
Jkaen, you keep saying 5 people claimed scum discards. I only see three. Me Meiz and Zak. Novice and DP have not claimed scum discards, those have literally been displayed as having actually been discarded. They can't be lying about them. So in fact there are only 3 claimed scum discards. Hardly the 5 you kept talking about. Do you still feel that its anomalous?
If everybody is telling the truth 5 scum roles were discarded, which seems a high proportion. The fact that I know for sure 2 of those are telling the truth doesn't affect the stats
Okay so you're saying 5 total not just 5 unknowns. Then I disagree that that is a high proportion. If anything I think its a bit low.
OK: 5 in the discard and what 3 scum in play (Maybe two scum and one SK? or 3 scum?) either way lets guess 3. So that is 8. 12 players 3 cards each, 48. So 48 cards 8 of them scum cards. That's about 16 percent. Look at the setup: 54 roles, 16 of them scum that's 29%.
Jkaen I don't understand where you keep getting this idea that its a high proportion. It's actually quantifiable to be on the low side!
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DP
You claim mafia lover is a terrible role that is really difficult to play, and hence suggest you would have no interest what so ever in playing it. In that case why was that your second option not your third?
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Lewwyn, did you just make 12x3=48?
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Not trying to be purposefully obtuse, just bad at maths.
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(July 7th, 2016, 04:24)Jkaen Wrote: Lewwyn, did you just make 12x3=48?
(July 7th, 2016, 04:27)Gazglum Wrote: Not trying to be purposefully obtuse, just bad at maths.
Still!
8 out of 36 is 22%
16 out of 54 is 29.6%
I'm still not wrong, its still on the low end. 
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(July 7th, 2016, 04:12)Lewwyn Wrote: Okay you're going to have to reorient this for me. Are you saying that Village Psilly logically ought to be making cases against Meiz and Gaz then? Or as scum? Does that mean you suspect Gaz and Meiz to be scummy or you just think Village Psilly would be more likely to suspect them?
Not trying to be purposefully obtuse, just clarifying.
I think village Psilly would be more likely to suspect them.
(Or at least I would, if I were Psilly.  )
If you know what I mean.
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