WW #43 - The Asha'man

[Meiz]

Please stop voting for Jkaen, and please stop voting for Rowain.

/drunk

This I agree with. I know you're natural enemies and all, but Rowain seems very town to me.

[novice]

Rowain is reading town to me, and claiming a "lynch me" role such as PGO is risky for scum. He's not holding back either, calling the mod incompetent and the masons idiots. Although I suppose that's a null tell for Rowain.

[novice]

I think scum would prefer to mislynch Adrien and keep Psilly on the back burner. If you reread WW42 you'll see Psilly's talent for getting mislynched (or more fairly, our talent for mislynching him). That was in fact part of my motivation for NOT switching - as I said at the time I'd rather mislynch him now than later.

I haven't read that game, but shouldn't that increase chances that people recognize his play as town for that style.

If he pulled a repeat performance we would have lynched him again, his style was "objectively" scummy according to RB meta.

[Meiz]

I disagree with that, which probably causes a loop, so let's just drop it for now . I do remember your strong & leading town play from way back, so I really hope you get to show it and convince me of your innocence. "Fenn because Zak" won't do it.

[Meiz]

After rereading I have Jkaen, Rowain, Zak and Gazglum as town. Fenn leaning towards town. Prometheus as very neutral. Novice, DP101 and Lewwyn at the bottom with no particular order. Lewwyn likes applying pressure on people, but right after his vote on novice he starts backpedaling with "I actually think your idea that Psilly was detrimental to town no matter his alignment, and so leaving your vote on him was a sort of triage, is more of a convincing argument for your innocence than saying it was too much work to set him straight.". That's some lousy pressure applying I have to say

[Lewwyn]

After rereading I have Jkaen, Rowain, Zak and Gazglum as town. Fenn leaning towards town. Prometheus as very neutral. Novice, DP101 and Lewwyn at the bottom with no particular order. Lewwyn likes applying pressure on people, but right after his vote on novice he starts backpedaling with "I actually think your idea that Psilly was detrimental to town no matter his alignment, and so leaving your vote on him was a sort of triage, is more of a convincing argument for your innocence than saying it was too much work to set him straight.". That's some lousy pressure applying I have to say

lol, I was implying that I don't really buy the other argument in comparison.

[Meiz]

Oh sorry, completely misread that

[zakalwe]

Also. Discarding Doctor for Vigilante and then killing a Mason on N1. That's pretty terrible.

Wait, what? Why the talk of discarding doctors? I thought you were going after Fenn, but Gaz was the one who discarded Doctor. Unless you referred to backup doctor as a full doctor, in which case I disagree with it being that bad a move given that backup doctor has an equal chance of working as it does you dying before it activates, and I can definitely see the benefits of choosing an active role as Vig over it. Doesn't change the fact that if your are right about it being a Vig shot and Fenn having done it, it turned out to be a horrible choice.

I read this post below as Gazglum claiming responsibility for Adrien's death. Looks a little less clear-cut after I take off the beer goggles, but that is still my interpretation.

ok thinking a bit more i guess scum killing Adrien is more likely than scum being blocked and a vig killing him, so surprised by their target though

I disagree totally. There is no way in 9 hells that the mafia would pick the guy who was likely to hang the next day. That was a vig shot.

I'm going to have to go back to square one on this, I won't vote tonight.

Sorry Adrien. I was up my own Glumhole on that one.

I don't have a real case against Fenn yet, mainly just voting with my gut and by elimination.

[zakalwe]

Hmmm. Right now, the scum situation seems incredibly muddled. Jkaen's pressure on me to the point of ignoring more critical votes made me sure he was scum trying to take out the easy target, but now with mason I see no way he could be scum. Fake claiming mason seems like at most a desperation move to try and get out of a lynch, and otherwise seems like an incredibly boneheaded way to force oneself into a 1v1 with the real mason. As for the rest of the field, Rowain seems angry but not necessarily guilty, his play is a little baffling but he comes off more as frustrated villager than overly defensive scum. Zak and Prometheus are hard to get a read on, they both haven't posted that much (or at least in Zak's case they haven't been as active as in other games I have followed along with), so could be a bit of a scum tell, but I don't really believe in killing lurkers just because they are lurkers, and neither of them have done anything especially scummy. Gaz feels like town Gaz, but he always appears to be town to me. Lewwyn... Lewwyn I'm not sure about. Like Jkaen he has put a lot of pressure on me, immediately jumping on half the posts I make and "deliberately misinterpreting" me, but at the same time the coordinated scum reads on him might be the result of a close scum team taking the easy option rather than a town concensus. The others I don't really have a feel on right now. Mostly I just need to organise my thoughts and figure out which scum tells are more important.

Blah blah blah. Even if you haven't decided which scum tells are more important, maybe you could enumerate them nonetheless?

[zakalwe]

Tally as of post 389:

Lynch votes
2 votes: novice (Meiz, Lewwyn)
2 votes: Fenn (zakalwe, novice)
1 votes: Rowain (Jkaen)

Voting history:

Rowain

novice

Fenn

novice

Fenn

Green votes
No votes.