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(July 9th, 2016, 18:19)Fenn Wrote: Quarter past 11:00, so a couple of hours before deadline. Wasn't sure whether to shoot Adrien or do nothing (shooting somebody else was a distant third), so I slept on it, read the latest posts in the thread and committed myself.
When is the deadline for you?
I have to run.
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Ok, Prometheus, suggesting that its more likely to have 3 killers with 2 blocked than it is for 2 killers seems a bit odd unless you have any sort of evidence for the assumption of strongarm.
As much as I was against claims earlier on, I would like Prometheus to claim his role now as maybe it will make more sense of his assumption.
Still dont get the scum kill of Adrien, hence believing Fenn, and voting Rowain
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(July 10th, 2016, 01:57)Lewwyn Wrote: (July 10th, 2016, 01:39)Meiz Wrote: As a side note, sorry Lewwyn but I'm currently reading you bussing your partners Prometheus & novice. But better not to get too ahead of myself here 
 If I start voting for you am I bussing you too?
The bias is strong.
I know town lewwyn likes to build up his own cases or if he is following others lead, he makes sure to dig deeper in to the case and bury his target. Neither is happening here. Your novice push was so mild it hardly exists. novices Fenn push is just side mentioned with "don't like it", which I find very strange, considering he's supposed to be one of your suspects. There's no reason why your Prometheus focus would stop you from questioning novice further on that.
Earlier you opened the door to BW on Prometheus, but found Rowain more interesting. However that subject is completely dropped when it doesn't gain traction. No effort whatsoever to dig evidence he'd be the scum. I don't think you believed in that push at all to begin with. I actually don't think you have conviction for any of your cases.
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Deadline for me would be 1500, so 3:00pm.
(July 10th, 2016, 01:49)novice Wrote: (July 9th, 2016, 18:39)Fenn Wrote: You aren't even trying to say that I'm an SK. You're claiming that, after a night in which only one person died, and after Rowain argued that Adrien could very well have been the mafia's target, the Mafia that I'm supposedly part of decided to claim Vigilante while under very little pressure because...?
How do you know the mafia was under very little pressure?
I meant myself, that I was under very little pressure ie. one or two votes. Who are you trying to fool with these lame gotchas?
(July 10th, 2016, 02:01)novice Wrote: My apologies if the town cred you've been promised is not materializing.
The motivation for claiming vigilante as scum is clear, it's a very convenient safe claim.
No, it isn't in this situation. I had absolutely no reason, as scum, to claim Vigilante at this point in the game. I was nowhere near danger at that time or at any point in the day thus far, and nobody claimed to have tracked or watched me killing Adrien. Your case against me amounts to generalities about what fake claims scum like to make and nitpicking at my choice of words. You know I'm not on your scum team and have said or done nothing inconsistent with being townie, so instead you try and trip me up on technicalities.
By the way, who do think my hypothetical scum partners are that they would heartily approve of me making a Vig claim in the middle of Day 2 for no reason? Do you even have any other suspects?
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(July 10th, 2016, 02:16)Jkaen Wrote: Still dont get the scum kill of Adrien, hence believing Fenn, and voting Rowain
Did you see that zak agreed that Adrien was a good scum-target. So is zak scum too?
Can't you simple accept the fact that you and Adrien completely botched it.
There is no doubt that Fenn took part in Adriens demise be it because he is vig, he is SK or he is scum.
Perhaps you can now try to find scum instead of simply voting Rowain Rowain because it gets old already.
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(July 10th, 2016, 02:16)Jkaen Wrote: Ok, Prometheus, suggesting that its more likely to have 3 killers with 2 blocked than it is for 2 killers seems a bit odd unless you have any sort of evidence for the assumption of strongarm.
As much as I was against claims earlier on, I would like Prometheus to claim his role now as maybe it will make more sense of his assumption.
I really don't have any evidence for my belief that there is a strongarm. I'm more likely than not just seeing the absolute worst scenario that could arise for Town. I seem to be good at that.
I am unwilling to claim my role, as it would make me an immediate target for the night phase.
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(July 10th, 2016, 02:46)Fenn Wrote: By the way, who do think my hypothetical scum partners are that they would heartily approve of me making a Vig claim in the middle of Day 2 for no reason? Do you even have any other suspects?
1) they don't have to approve your actions at all.
2) A scummie who is believed to be a town-vig wins the game for scum so why wouldn't they approve?
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(July 10th, 2016, 03:15)Prometheus1998_ Wrote: I am unwilling to claim my role, as it would make me an immediate target for the night phase.
Currently you are running the risk to get lynched. I would suggest if the tally looks still bad for you a few hours before lynch you claim. It is better to be an obvious target during night (which might be saved one way or other) then losing another PR due to lynch.
Remember that swings can happen fast around here.
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(July 10th, 2016, 03:24)Rowain Wrote: (July 10th, 2016, 03:15)Prometheus1998_ Wrote: I am unwilling to claim my role, as it would make me an immediate target for the night phase.
Currently you are running the risk to get lynched. I would suggest if the tally looks still bad for you a few hours before lynch you claim. It is better to be an obvious target during night (which might be saved one way or other) then losing another PR due to lynch.
Remember that swings can happen fast around here. It's probably best to get it out of the way now. I'm a Roleblocker. My choices were that, VT, and Lover. I ranked them in that order.
Before requests to know my night action comes in, I'll tell you now. Last night, I blocked AdrienIer, as per his request. I wanted to see what happened. In hindsight, it's obvious why he wanted to be blocked: he had no active powers.
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An updated List
1. Prometheus - Roleblocker (claimed); Vanilla Townie; Lover
2. AdrienIer - Mason; Hider; 1 shot vig
3. Jkaen - Mason (claimed); Hider; Vanilla Townie
4. Lewwyn - Vanilla Townie; Mafia Goon
5. Meiz - One-shot Vigilante; Mafia Goon
6. Psillycyber - Roleblocker; One-shot Vigilante; Vanilla Townie
7. Dp101 - Mafia Lover; Hider
8. Zakalwe - One-shot Governor; Mafia Doctor
9. Gazglum - Doctor; One-shot Vigilante
10. Rowain - PGO (claimed); Vanilla Townie; One-shot Governor
11. Fenn - Vig (claimed); Backup Doctor; Enabler
12. Novice - Mafia Godfather; Vanilla Townie
For the record:
Rereading D1 convinced me that Jkaen is Mason.
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