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WW #43 - The Asha'man

Ok, after looking at the roleclaims today + my summery from yesterday, I now have a top 3 list for scum and why! Unfortunately for each one I also have a reason why I absolutely don't want to lynch them lol. Can't have everything I suppose.

1. Lewwyn
I think my thoughts on him in my summery on him adequately sum up my thoughts on his play so far - looking for easy targets rather than scum. However, his roleclaim throws my votes on him up in the air, because if we are wrong about lynching him (and lets face it, based on my lynching record I probably am wrong) we could potentially lose our doctor or our cop, which would be potentially disastrous for town. It could hurt the scum by taking out their role, but given that scum have not won yet the odds are in their favour that it would hurt us more than them.

2. Meiz
Meiz really hasn't made many posts that convince me he is innocent. His posts today don't have many of his own thoughts in them, which is odd as at this point I find it incredibly unlikely that he would have few reads of his own to post. Most of his cases these days revolve around the theories of other people, which is an easy way to separate oneself from a mislynch. My hesitation to vote him is twofold - One, he might be our only doctor and scum probably don't have a strongman based on the night 1 results, and two, my number one suspect is voting for him. Kind of hard to go after a guy with that kind of backup, right?

3. Rowain
Rowain has grown to feel more and more like villager to me. The mass roleclaim has given us more info than I though it would, and his play has involved less mudslinging than it did day 2. However, I still can't get past the PGO claim as something I heavily dislike. In my mind this role is the perfect alibi for scum, no need to explain his night actions and a permeant shield from any and all cops the town might have. The role still feels like too perfect of a scum role, although scum would probably claim it later so that is probably a point in his favour.

Also, on the topic of people being suspicious of me for changing my mind, what exactly do you want me to do? Make reads and stick to them forever no matter how circumstances change? Post a 500 word essay and get approval from 6 confirmed town players before I can make a decision? I find it incredibly annoying how this essentially prevents me from going back on my previous choices if I change my mind, and I hope that the one thing that people get from my posts is that I think a lot about the game between them, and almost every player in the game could be viewed by me as scum or town depending on which I assume they are, I.E. confirmation bias is much stronger than how I feel about anyone's play in a vacuum right now.
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Tally as of post 741:

Lynch votes
3 votes: novice (Rowain, Fenn, Meiz)
2 votes: Lewwyn (Dp101, Gazglum)
1 votes: Dp101 (novice)
1 votes: Meiz (Lewwyn)

Voting history:
Gazglum Wrote: Dp101
Rowain Wrote: Dp101
novice Wrote: Dp101
Fenn Wrote: Dp101
Lewwyn Wrote: Meiz
Dp101 Wrote: Lewwyn
Rowain Wrote: novice
Fenn Wrote: novice
Meiz Wrote: novice
Gazglum Wrote: Lewwyn

Green votes
No votes.
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To clarify, I am not saying "don't lynch Lew", I am instead saying "lynch him last because we want to use our power roles as much as possible".
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Lewwyn why would you choose enabler over vanilla town?

@Fenn, I've verified from Jabbz that doctors can self protect on this game.
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I've never played with an enabler before, and I don't quite understand it. Do you know about a particular power or player you are enabling? If its random, isn't it worse than vanilla town?
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In the meantime, Novice is not a member of the mafia. I scanned his last night because, especially given I already knew Fenn's alignment, I didn't like Novice's attack on him. I thought it looked like an attempt to bail out Prometheus. But he is not mafia, and since he threw away Godfather we know he is not that.
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My gut instinct is that Rowain and Meiz are the scum team. I was almost totally on board with this as today continued, then Meiz's doctor claim threw me for a loop until Novice pointed out that Zak could have saved himself Day 1.

I don't buy the 'breadcrumbing' about Fenn's role or whatever. I don't think that particularly shows anything, and it feels to me like a gambit where they went back to scour Day 1 and find 'evidence' to point to. Meiz' complete lack of scum hunting more than outweighs it. He claims that Lewwyn and Novice are a scum team, but won't do anything to pressure them. ANd his hard town lean on Rowain I just don't believe.

I think they know that they lose if one of them dies today, so they have gone all in with the gambit and backing each other up as Definitely Town, when nothing in the game justifies such a reading of their play.
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As for DP101, I think his posts have been really quite towny since we put pressure on him. ANd he has been consistent about suspecting Lewwyn, when I go through.

Lewwyn's play has tapered off, but when I go back, his Day 1 starts pretty well. I had him as a town lean then, and certainly more towny than Meiz and Rowain.
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(July 12th, 2016, 21:25)Dp101 Wrote: .

2. Meiz
Meiz really hasn't made many posts that convince me he is innocent. His posts today don't have many of his own thoughts in them, which is odd as at this point I find it incredibly unlikely that he would have few reads of his own to post. Most of his cases these days revolve around the theories of other people, which is an easy way to separate oneself from a mislynch.

I'm pretty sure I've been the first to suspect both novice & lewwyn. Both are character reads, they have such a strong town games that it seems obvious to me when they're not. I do admit I've been a bit lazy to enhance those suspicions by pointing specific things from this game.

novices posts are better today, but Zak's death overrides that slight town lean big time. I'm dead certain he wanted to clear his slight town lean on novice, while at the same time nailing his case on DP101 (for attackimg novice). Hiding behind me or Lewwyn makes much less sense compared to that.
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(July 13th, 2016, 01:26)Gazglum Wrote: In the meantime, Novice is not a member of the mafia. I scanned his last night because, especially given I already knew Fenn's alignment, I didn't like Novice's attack on him. I thought it looked like an attempt to bail out Prometheus. But he is not mafia, and since he threw away Godfather we know he is not that.

Excellent scan then (duh at myself). Now I realize why Lewwyn wanted to get me lynched before novice lol

If you go down the Meiz/ Rowain lynch today, may I suggest lynching Rowain first? Would you agree with this Rowain?
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