WW #43 - The Asha'man

[Meiz]

It seems impossible for town-Gaz to suggest Fenn taking a coin toss between me & lewwyn, which almost certainly would end the game for two scum if he picks wrong. Just due to a fear of scum dayvig or governor? How on earth are you willing to risk this?

[Meiz]

I see no downside with shooting Dp. And of course he plays it cool, what else would he do.

You think scum woul claim bulletproof and not be prepared to test it?

[Gazglum]

Oh I'm panicking, although it's more because there is still a decent chance that Gaz is actually town and is just misguided, but people will trust a dead man's words more than mine.

DP, if you were town you would now believe it was Meiz and Lewwyn. Remember, your Day 3 suspects? You guys need to keep your stories straight.

It is definitely Meiz and DP. I am now as confident of that, as I was of Meiz + Rowain 24 hours ago.

[Dp101]

Oh I'm panicking, although it's more because there is still a decent chance that Gaz is actually town and is just misguided, but people will trust a dead man's words more than mine.

DP, if you were town you would now believe it was Meiz and Lewwyn. Remember, your Day 3 suspects? You guys need to keep your stories straight.

It is definitely Meiz and DP. I am now as confident of that, as I was of Meiz + Rowain 24 hours ago.

I didn't say that wasn't the case. How do you come to that conclusion from my post?

[Dp101]

Also, again, why don't you suspect Lewwyn? Or is it just that you think Meiz + me is more scummy than either of the other combinations?

[Meiz]

Meiz...try to imagine what it would be like if you were town. If you really think you can guarantee the game not ending...wouldn't you want me to stay alive to get us to 100% certainty? There are 2 scum out of 3 unscanned targets, whatever result I get gives us scum.

Unless you have decided I am not town, after calling me obvious town the entire game.

Here's the issue. I'm running out of suspects really quickly.

Scum would be desperate to get me killed, as otherwise you would get another scan through, ending the game. Now why is DP voting Rowain to death, instead of taking the only chance they have for win. I don't think DP is scum. That leaves me with only 1 scum.

Lewwyn has such a carefree attitude in this scenario, he would be fighting much harder as scum.

And last, why would Zak visit me or Lewwyn over novice. The guy who he had the strongest town read of us three. The guy who his main suspect was attacking.

So yeaj, I'm officially in the paranoid-land.

[Gazglum]

I didn't say that wasn't the case. How do you come to that conclusion from my post?

'I didn't say that wasn't the case'. YOu should have a career in politics DP! NO you didn't specifically say that. You just started asking Meiz' advice, said you were worried about me, and didn't bother to mention that you now knew the two scum to be Meiz and Lewwyn.

Anyway, doesn't matter, fair is fair and this is all pointless chat at the moment.

[Dp101]

I wasn't asking for Meiz's advice, he was giving it to me and I was explaining my position. Also, why would I ask for his advice in this thread if we were both scum, why not the mafia thread that we would share?

[Gazglum]

TO THE TOWNIES:

The scum are playing hard to win, which I believe means they think they can win tomorrow. Why would they think that? Because in a 3v2 situation tomorrow:

1. They could have a Mafia Governor
This would be tricky, but could scrape them a win. If the vote settle, eg: 3 votes Meiz, 2 votes Fenn, with town and scum block voting, then a scum governor could wait until the very last second and then block the Meiz vote. If that happened, it is likely the townies wouldn't have time to revote to DP, so the mislynch would go through and scum would win.

There isn't much you guys will be able to do about this except be ready at deadline.

2. The scum could have a day vigilante

This is beatable. What town needs to do is all consolidate your votes as fast as you can onto Meiz. Because when one of you is shot and it becomes 2v2, I believe whoever reached 2 votes first will be lynched.

Lewwyn is going to be asleep. So Novice and Fenn, you HAVE to red-vote Meiz like within seconds of daybreak. Or DP if you prefer. Otherwise scum can consolidate on a town, kill one of you, and then they'll win the coin-flip.

All these problems can be beaten if Fenn's shot goes through. It looks to me like scum have a doctor, so I guess it becomes a game of chicken. EIther shoot DP, or Meiz, but one of them will be protected.

Yes, I could be wrong on the pair. I'm tired now, and I know i've made a lot of mistakes. But I think strategically this is all sound, anyway.

[Gazglum]

Remember, in this setup town have: cop, masons, paranoid gun owner, hider, and a vigilante. Given that, a doctor and a governor/vigilante would seem perfectly fair counterparts for scum.