RMOG: Renaissance Men of Genius

[WarriorKnight]

Scratch what I said above, mackoti has astronomy about a dozen turns before we do. Combine naval superiority with Phracts and we will be lucky if we can hold even 1 island city. Going to have to build research to crank it out ASAP, but there's a very good chance we get Phracted between now and then. We also have a possible situation with Alhazard over near Peaks, but it is probably not going to amount to much.

Edu first was a mistake, we are nowhere near being able to build Oxford (hell, we don't even have a single uni) and Astro would at least allow us to field our UU to defend ourselves. 3 other teams have bulbed Edu, that was probably the correct play. Or, if you are REM, go straight for Constitution thanks to no mackoti nearby.

I don't see a situation where this works out well for us. Since mackoti and REM can't reach each other, the only way they can expand further is through other civs. Thankfully we are not the weakest power on the map (although we are a yummy treat for mackoti until we get Astro ourselves), but it is very likely that REM will eat Alhazard before we can, and most of our hopes lie on expanding through Alhazard ourselves. We do still have our UB but our heavy research plan does not seem to be working out, since we are being forced to expand before the land runs out.

My enthusiasm for the game has dropped dramatically and I now remember why I stopped playing these games. I will of course continue playing, it is just unfortunate that this happened despite setting up the game with almost ideal settings (late era start, RMOG reunion, base BtS) and now I have no idea how long I'll need to continue playing for. My apologies to everyone (especially dave) for my feelings on the matter, I hope the lurkers are enjoying this game more than I am.

[Zalson]

Are you saying that Mackoti already has astronomy or are you concerned that he will get it sooner than you will? Cannot tell from your post above.

Don't give up! The other teams can make a mistake and you can them!

[WarriorKnight]

Are you saying that Mackoti already has astronomy or are you concerned that he will get it sooner than you will? Cannot tell from your post above.

Don't give up! The other teams can make a mistake and you can them!

He finished Astronomy last turn, while we are about a dozen turns away from it if we don't speed it up building research. We do have a few pikes floating around and with circum we aren't quite as vulnerable as I first thought. Still, reacting to other players is not a winning move.

While I appreciate your enthusiasm, in my experience with RB that just doesn't happen (especially not with this field). A team that falls behind is only likely to make more mistakes over time, combine that with the snowball effect and how are we supposed to win? That said who knows what the future holds so idk.

I don't want to spoil the game for anyone, so I will see if I can get dave to cover for me in the meantime.

[WarriorKnight]

T237:

Things could get ugly very quickly.

OK so first off, mackoti hasn't landed anything on our gold island. Which is great since this is the turn we can land on it ourselves. So I do so and, what do we have here?



I can't tell if it has been moved this turn already, but I will assume worst case scenario and it hasn't. The million dollar question, does mackoti have a Phract on that galleon? If he does, he can take a 50:50 shot on my Lbow to kill my settler and settle his own city (assuming unpromoted, obviously worse for us if promoted). If he doesn't, then he has nothing that has odds on my LBow before I can settle next turn. I'm hoping that it contains a settler/worker/LBow but if he scratched the worker in favor of a unit it doesn't look great for us.

Looking at power:



Well, I can't rule out a Phract here.

Still, since we need to play risky to catch up I landed the settler and went for it. Next turn I can add 2 LBows to city defense and I'm working on putting a pike in there as well. If he DOW's and kills the settler... Well we tried.

Oh, and scooter offered a map trade again, and I said why not? He's settled the copper island between themselves and mackoti which is good. We might be in a position to grab scooter's silver island soon too, hopefully mackoti hasn't made any ground in that theater yet.

[WarriorKnight]

T238:

mackoti did not attack. Rejoice! A sacrifice to our Byzcoti overlords.



Desert Incense settled as planned (forgot a pic...). I only put 1 additional LBow in there since mack decided to play conservative (now we have 2), I may still schedule a pike in there but not in the near future.

Anyway, next turn we should get this spot as well:



Can't confirm it yet but this should be a lock. mackoti isn't super likely to try for this spot (although what do I know?) and scooter only settled on this ocean in the last 2 turns so he can't possibly compete for silver island.

PC finishes another settler next turn, and we are currently split on whether to aim for the northern gold island (dave) or the W isthmus location (WK). I will make my case for the latter now (since we do need to decide before next turn). Firstly with scooter settling Culture Victory (rofls), Northern gold isn't a terribly appealing spot with only 1 clam as food. We don't really need the gold, nor do we want to piss Sculla off if we can avoid it. More important though is this:



REM's dotmap prohibits him from getting a good city on the eastern coast. He has already claimed all of the food on his side of the coast with inland cities, so putting another one just for coastal access is dubious. His lack of priority in settling our coast is what makes the copper island between us almost guaranteed to be ours, but I would like to go further and deny him complete access if possible.

If we planted a city here:



Then all cities of ours that border the ocean would almost certainly be backline, with REM unable to create a canal with a city (to be fair he can build a fort, I only just thought of that so maybe this point is kinda meh). Not to mention 3 food(big!), and essentially controlling the entire isthmus. 2N would also work, although that is a bit close to Durmstrang. We could probably settle this in 3-4t.

Maybe another set of multiple gold resources doesn't really appeal to me? I can see the value for non-FIN civs, but I don't think it's worthwhile for us. FIN coast is pretty good to grow on, and even though W isthmus isn't an island it still has plenty of water to work.

[oledavy]

Fantastic work on getting desert incense settled. Nice to roll the dice and win

Agree with the placement of the silver city.

You've convinced me re: gold city versus city near REM. I would still like to have the option to settle the gold city open though, so we should queue up another settler. If we end up not being able to settle gold island, we can settle the banana lake location. 

I'm headed out later today, and won't have access to my gaming desktop, so I won't be able to log in to the pitboss until Sunday. I will however, still be hanging around the forums and Gmail, so hit me up if there is anything we need to discuss. I should be good to take over on Sunday when I get home. 

Name idea for silver city?

[WarriorKnight]

REM settled W isthmus this turn, so scratch that plan.

Currently favoring PC settler to head to SW copper island, decent chance we could lose that now if we don't get on it.

[oledavy]

REM settled W isthmus this turn, so scratch that plan.  

Currently favoring PC settler to head to SW copper island, decent chance we could lose that now if we don't get on it.

Where did he settle on it, picture?

[WarriorKnight]

REM settled W isthmus this turn, so scratch that plan.  

Currently favoring PC settler to head to SW copper island, decent chance we could lose that now if we don't get on it.

Where did he settle on it, picture?

He settled on the banana (don't have a pic).

[oledavy]

REM settled W isthmus this turn, so scratch that plan.  

Currently favoring PC settler to head to SW copper island, decent chance we could lose that now if we don't get on it.

Where did he settle on it, picture?

He settled on the banana (don't have a pic).

Ah, that sucks. Copper island it is then!