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t198 - maybe heading for a 2turn day now that sooooo's gone.
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 17t
Ankara - 41t
Edirne - 116t
Izmir - 49t
Zonguldak GP - 2t
Diplo progress:
UN due - 4t
Judaism - into Antalya (on the Island)
Taoism - fails into Edirne
Taoism - fails into Ankara
Christianity - into Edirne
At least I damaged both of mh's Fighters as they flew in to kill mine....
Plastics due next turn for Ruff; Three Gorges Dam will certanly help him. Probably them Computers and Robotics for Space Elevator after that?
I tweak all my cities for max-growth, set up the next round of culture builds, and hire Merchants when added production is not needed - cash will be needed for corp spread.
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Quote:Hmmm,
I wonder where the double modifier from the SoZ comes in.
Any idea when you are going to finish the turn? No pressure, though.
mh
Quote:Playing now. It looks like Aryan auto-hired an Artist Specialist last turn to pop borders - even though it'd have been fine without - this turn I pushed to a Merchant though, so "only" 18-ish Culture and 3rd ring won't pop until next turn. Don't forget to get your unit in place next turn to take it from me; and prepare a suitable public taunting as well... 9-)
Dreylin.
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t199 - 2-fer
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 16t
Ankara - 40t
Edirne - 84t (CreCon spread)
Izmir - 44t (completed Conf. Academy)
Zonguldak GP - 1t
Diplo progress:
UN due - 3t
Ruff pop - 37%
Buddhism - into Ankara
Christianity - into Izmir
Taoism - into Ankara (just missing Christianity from available religions)
Last 200g to Ruff for the remaining Tanks. I also request his new spare Deer.
Counterespionage mission run in Death Valley.
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Interesting news 
I'm sure Ruff will regret his 'It doesn't matter if you are alive or not' remark.
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t200 - getting close now
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 15t
Ankara - 40t
Edirne - 75t (improvement & Specialist adjusting)
Izmir - 40t (completed Hindu Mandir)
Zonguldak - 75t (from just running Artists)
It's worth noting at this point that Edirne is still 3rd on the list in the Victory conditions screen, and will remain so for quite a few turns at least.
Zonguldak GP - 8t ... Great Artist popped! So that's 2680Culture available in one healthy shot, or it can be used to found Civilized Jewelers. The Corp. screen shows CivJewel offering me 30cpt (plus 2cpt for the HQ) ... that's ~90t in one city, or ~30t in 3 cities.
Except that's without multipliers; the base multiplier from Free Speech & Broadcast Tower is +150%. So the 30cpt becomes 75cpt, and the 90t payback becomes 35t in just one city. So spread it to 2 or 3 and the payback exceeds the initial investment. The only remaining question is what city to incorporate in. While I would love to have three Corporate HQs in the same city as the Shrine for the largest religion, I know which city I would target for continued revolt if I were Ruff ... the one creating >300gpt for my empire! So I think it may have to be Edirne that gets the HQ this time - with a full suite of economic buildings I'll at least get +100%, and it is the furthest behind the curve on Culture at the moment.
Diplo progress:
UN due - 2t
Ruff pop - 36%
Judaism - into Marsin (island - another Missionary pump)
Buddhism - into Edirne
Christianity - into Ankara (6/7 religions, and I have no access to Islam)
I have a Spy in Death Valley caught due to "counterintelligence efforts", so I know Ruff has also run that mission. He's back to 400+ EPs more than me, but I'm starting to get some more generators online.
Oh, and I lost Aryan mk2 to the ravages of mh's invincible troops (and not having defended it).
City/build review, and jiggering of tile assignments & Specialists gives me enough additional income to allow another 10% on the slider! So now the Cultural progress looks like:
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 15t
Ankara - 38t
Edirne - 70t
Izmir - 35t (couple of additional Artists)
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Dreylin Wrote:The only remaining question is what city to incorporate in. While I would love to have three Corporate HQs in the same city as the Shrine for the largest religion, I know which city I would target for continued revolt if I were Ruff ... the one creating >300gpt for my empire!
Ouch! Nice catch. Yeah, Civ Jewelers always makes a profit in total between its own production and the HQ... but not if the HQ gets turned off! Then it's just as if it were a foreign corporation, paying lots of maintenance.
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Quote:Hi,
growing quite a lot in the last turns.
I think you should aim to have enough votes to vote yourself SecGen, with me abstaining, to not get Ruff suspicious.
In the meantime, as far as it does not interfere with the diplo win plan, I will pursue my nuclear option.
Maybe we can convince Ruff to play on after the diplo win, to see whether he could beat you to the "planned" victory.
mh
Quote:Hey,
Agreed. I've re-jigged to maximise pop as well, and have been maintaining >50% of world Pop so far, which should let me get SecGen without help. I guess the dangerous time will be between the SecGen vote and the Diplo vote, Ruff will probably grow his pop quite a bit during that period in sooooo's old cities - which is where we hopefully counteract with your growth & Sushi.
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t201 - read the note to cancel the final Coal deal with Ruff ... and do it.
Guess he forgot. He did get a GS though, and I did vote for him as AP resident; anyone want to bet whether he vote for me at the UN? He is racing through the techs (and burning through gold); Computers to complete next turn - although that will obsolete his Spiral Minaret and eliminate some of his income. Of course since he's in Free Religion already that income has already gone.
Great Artist will reach Edirne next turn to found CivJewel - which will time nicely with the completion of its Conf. Academy to allow a couple of Execes to be built.
CreCon - into Mecca
Sid's - into Bursa for super-fast growth
(I mislaid one Exec which is why I haven't quite managed to get Sid's into Edirne yet ... next turn.)
Taoism - into Edirne! (now just short of Judaism)
A couple more in-transit but nowhere useful this turn.
Diplo progress:
UN due - EOT
Ruff pop - 36%
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 14t
Ankara - 31t (completed Hindu Mandir)
Edirne - 69t
Izmir - 34t (completed Christian Temple)
Zonguldak - 73t (GP in 7t; 98% Artist)
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t202 - update from mh:
Quote:Current Diplo Victory: 369/596
Dreylin 310
mh 72
Ruff 214 (227 currently needed to block)
3 more pops for me next turn, and then 3 more pops after that.
Ruff wins Apostolic residency, I vote for myself for UN SecGen.
Christianity - into Istanbul (for added Temple)
Buddhism - into New Damascus (not really important, but it /is/ our religion at the moment)
2 Buddhists waiting in Izmir for next turn, and a Jewish Missionary in Edirne. Temples going up everywhere to allow for Cathedrals in the culture centres and Mecca starts on Hollywood in 5t - incase it's needed as the fifth(!?) centre. I also slip a couple of mid-range cities onto Wealth in order to afford the imminent corp. spread.
Bursa is now the poster child for growth with Sid's Sushi; currently running at +23food per turn ... and this turn the food box was already at 27/24; going to be growing for a lot of turns to come! I have Workers switching Mines to Windmills all over the shop, so I should be able to squeeze a couple of other growths for each of the next few turns.
Cultural progress:
Istanbul - 13t (completed Hindu Temple)
Ankara - 26t (completed Buddhist Stupa)
Edirne - 39t (completed Confucian Academy, Sid's spread, & CivJewel founded)
Izmir - 30t (completed Taoist Pagoda)
Zonguldak - 72t (GP in 6t; 98% Artist)
Things are shaping up well for culture... 
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A note from mh this morning:
Quote:Hi,
did you lose 2 pop points since last turn?
Here are my stats:
Current Diplo Victory: 374/604
Dreylin 308 (-2 ????)
mh 75 (+3)
Ruff 221 (+7!!!)
2 more pops for me next turn, and then 6 more pops after that.
mh
Quote:mh,
Only Aryan mk2, but then Bursa is growing a pop per turn and I'm generally squeezing another 1-2pop out of my other cities, which should have made up for that loss the turn it happened.
I guess we should get the "members" statistics updated next turn when the results of the SecGen election comes in, but during my turn the Victories screen was saying 370/596 votes for diplo win. Just checked and after EOT it had moved to 372/601 with Domination victory reporting 52.08% Pop ... which is 313 votes. Ruff was reporting 35% pop, 210 votes; leaving 78 votes for you.
How are you generating your figures?
Dreylin.
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