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December 5th, 2016, 17:40 (This post was last modified: December 6th, 2016, 07:24 by rho21. Edit Reason: spoilers! )
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How about (numbering with a1 in the top right):
... Be2, to target the f1 square, making Qb1+ deadly.

Black can defend against Qb1 with Be1 (for Rxe2), but that leads to something like:
Be1 Qd1
Rf1 Bxf1
Kxf1 Qf3+
Bf2 Ne3+ and mate in a couple of moves.

Have I missed anything?

I like the positioning of bishop, knight and pawn to block any hope the white queen has of returning in time to aid the defence.
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December 6th, 2016, 01:16
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pindicator:
What Dave said.

rho21
Correct! That's actually how the game ended(https://www.chess.com/live/game/1839227678).

Oh yeah, it might be good next time to put your answer in spoiler tags to avoid spoiling others
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December 6th, 2016, 07:24
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(December 6th, 2016, 01:16)ipecac Wrote: Oh yeah, it might be good next time to put your answer in spoiler tags to avoid spoiling others[/spoiler]

Erm yeah, oops. I'll fix it now, just in case it helps.
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December 6th, 2016, 11:05
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lol Nice to know I still know how to blunder
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December 9th, 2016, 08:12
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That's a brilliant move.
I have to run.
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December 28th, 2016, 08:52
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[Image: R2QR1K1%20w%20-%20-%201%2019&size=3]

Black just played 18...Nf5.

I missed the most incisive continuation. What is it?
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December 28th, 2016, 14:49
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Nxf7 looks pretty strong?
..Rxe1
Qxe1 Kxf7
d6+ Kf8
Ng6#
I have to run.
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December 29th, 2016, 01:12
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(December 28th, 2016, 14:49)novice Wrote:
Nxf7 looks pretty strong?
..Rxe1
Qxe1 Kxf7
d6+ Kf8
Ng6#

Correct, 19 Nxf7! wins.

Part II

Instead, I played 19 d6 which was met by 19...Nxd6.

[Image: R2QR1K1%20w%20-%20-%200%2020&size=3] White to play.
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December 29th, 2016, 02:27 (This post was last modified: December 29th, 2016, 03:07 by Cheater Hater.)
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(December 29th, 2016, 01:12)ipecac Wrote:
(December 28th, 2016, 14:49)novice Wrote:
Nxf7 looks pretty strong?
..Rxe1
Qxe1 Kxf7
d6+ Kf8
Ng6#

Correct, 19 Nxf7! wins.

Part II

Instead, I played 19 d6 which was met by 19...Nxd6.

[Image: R2QR1K1%20w%20-%20-%200%2020&size=3] White to play.
Can't black just move the queen after the rooks trade instead of taking the knight? Something like 20...Qb6 or Qh4 (both allow Qxh6 to guard that mate), 21...Be7 or Bd6? I don't think that's great (it feels like the d-pawn trades for a bishop in a lot of the lines, particularly the Qh4 ones), but it's not game-ending.
Edit: Qb6 doesn't work; 21 d6 makes that look foolish. Qh4 seems reasonable though.
Edit 2: And Qh4 gets forked by Ng6--ignore me tongue
Edit 3: What about Qe7 lines? These trade the queen for bishop+knight (mostly through blocking on f7), and I don't see a win if white trades either (Nxe7 guards the Ng6 mates)
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December 29th, 2016, 07:19
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@CH: In the Qe7 lines you can play Nxh6+ followed by d6+ or Ng6+ winning the queen. And in the Qh4 line you can play g3 and kick the queen back to e7.
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