Dave Fires Up The Epstein Drive [Japan]

[ebbitten]

I think that you can't settle or otherwise remove luxury resources.


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[Jabah]

since you can settle SE of it, while being 3tiles away, either there is a city 3NE of it (over water !!) or the rule is more complicated (likely you can settle 3t away but not 2t ?) and undocumented (what a surprise )

[Ituralde]

I'm actually shocked that I didn't think of that, I guess I'll bill myself as the OPA this game   (Maybe a thread title change incoming...)

The names weren't necessarily in order. I think Ganymede will be the capital though, simply because I like the name better and because of the role the moon plays in Caliban's War. Started reading the second book yet? Did Holden get on your nerves in the first book as much as he got on mine?

At any rate, thanks for the compliment, I hope I can manage to be as competitive this time around. We'll see what the game brings!

Can't say that he got on my nerves or that I was anxious to get his chapters over with. Yes his actions are sometimes a bit naive and idealistic, but as you rightly mentioned they're closest to what I felt I would want to do in a similar situation, so I had no problems there.

Back to the game: With all those coastal tiles and mountains you really are struggling for district places. The cotton also sits right in the middle of a possible adjacency cluster. I'm sure you'll figure something out, though.

[Kaiser]

To answer the question, you can settle any land tile you can move on, this includes tiles with luxury resources and any other resources.

There are actually only two restrictions, first it has to be land tile to settle, second it has to be more than 3 tiles away of any other city center. So even over water you need to stay 3 tiles away from the city center, which is the reason why that tile is beeing shown as unavailable for settlement

[Ituralde]

To answer the question, you can settle any land tile you can move on, this includes tiles with luxury resources and any other resources.

There are actually only two restrictions, first it has to be land tile to settle, second it has to be more than 3 tiles away of any other city center. So even over water you need to stay 3 tiles away from the city center, which is the reason why that tile is beeing shown as unavailable for settlement

The one tile to the South East of it is shown as available to settle even thouhg it is within 3 tiles of Ganymede. So some additional factor for different land masses must be in play.

[suboptimal]

To answer the question, you can settle any land tile you can move on, this includes tiles with luxury resources and any other resources.

There are actually only two restrictions, first it has to be land tile to settle, second it has to be more than 3 tiles away of any other city center. So even over water you need to stay 3 tiles away from the city center, which is the reason why that tile is beeing shown as unavailable for settlement

The one tile to the South East of it is shown as available to settle even thouhg it is within 3 tiles of Ganymede. So some additional factor for different land masses must be in play.

If I remember correctly the minimum settling distance is reduced to 3 tiles where the cities are on different land masses.

[oledavy]

Great discussion and thanks suboptimal, I think you're right on the money with your supposition. 

If I had to infer the rule based on the settler filter, I would guess that the minimum settling distance is merely reduced for cities on different landmasses (from 4 ->3), rather than eliminated. 

Anyway, time for turn 3. 

Turn 3



Unfogged a bunch more tiles. I do think I'm glad now that I didn't settle the cotton. It leaves me open two strong second city sites, the one I have marked and 1 SE of the warrior. Actually, I think I prefer that SE one at present (One 3/1 tile, Two 2/2 tiles, and cotton in the first ring). Alternatively, I might opt to settle the second city on the tile already marked and cram in another one southeast of the sheep. We'll see. At any rate, I'm glad my only option is not just to settle the grassland hill forest southwest of the warrior, as it might have been otherwise. 

I get to make my first real scouting decision next turn. I'm almost certainly going west, but I could be convinced to go southwest. Southeast looks like it tapers off into a dead end, and I expect northwest ends in tundra. No sign of a city-state yet.

[oledavy]

Turn 4

More fresh water to the west. 



All the hills and fresh water are really nice. Still no sign of a city-state though 

All those mountains are great for adjacency bonuses, but do take up valuable tiles that could be worked otherwise. Right now, I'm tentatively leaning towards the southern city location, and putting 4 districts (2 Holy Sites, 2 Commercial Hubs) in the hill region between them. 

God of the Open Sky seems like the best Pantheon pick at the moment.

[oledavy]

Turn 5

Much bigger turn than I thought it would be. 



While I would of course have preferred a cultural/scientific city state, finding a religious one is pretty awesome for the game I want to play here. It also all but guarantees I will get first choice of pantheon. 

Its quest is to get the Eureka for Archery, so I should be able to get a second envoy in there sooner rather than later. 

The city is not worth taking. It has no fresh water, and every tile in the first ring is coast or desert. I will be much more useful as a suzerain. The Colossal Head improvement is intriguing, although I sense I won't get much mileage out of it due to the relative lack of land tiles on this map thus far. Something else interesting I noticed this turn: 



Well, if I want to get the Inspiration for Foreign Trade, there's the continent I need to 'uncover.' I think the only way I can do it is with a galley, and I'm not sure I can delay that long. That being said, that's also probably the most likely direction to find my nearest neighbor in. My starting island seems smallish, and I think I am alone. I have room for 3 solid cities total that I can see at present, then I'll have to dip my toes in the water. 

Nobody else has met a CS that is religious/scientific/cultural yet. Singaboy grew a population. Next turn, I'll hit size 2. I went ahead and shifted tiles this turn to get an extra hammer out.

[yuris125]

What does God of the Open Sky do? Sorry for silly question